[myredline]

I like GTP's, hell I used to own one but to say we can't beat them is just BS. Yes with some mods you can get into the 13's but stock I don't think so. 97-2003 GTP were 240hp / 280ft / 3559lbs and 0 to 60 in 6.8sec.

Now our cars are said to be 205hp. But as we all know most are dynoed at 205+ to the wheels. Our cars weigh in @ 2960 and 0 to 60 in 6.3sec. Which was giving by the same morons who couldn't get this car faster then 15.3 in the quarter. Which once again we all know that to be bull. The redline will run constent 14.5's all day. Oh and here is a dyno slip of a 02 GTP and it only put 200 to the wheels. SO we are making more power with a lighter car. YOU DO THE MATH.

2002 pontiac grand prix gtp
Engine Specs: 3.8Liter pushrod (6Cyl)
Mileage: 1500 miles
Aspiration: super-charged[7 psi]
Transmission: 4A
Max (RW/FW)HP: 199.9 @ 5253 rpms
Max (RW/FW)TQ: 233.0 @ 3974 rpms
Estimated Fly Wheel Horsepower: 256 @ 5253 rpms [assuming 22 % drivetrain loss]
Estimated Fly Wheel Torque: 299 @ 3974 rpms [assuming 22 % drivetrain loss]
Room temp / Inlet Temp (F): 68.0 / 57.0
Pressure (kPa): 101.3
Humidity (%): 60.0
Condition Details: ATC Corr = +0.990 Atmos. Corr = +1.000 K factor = +0.990 User/Dyno Inertia: 1.000 5.841 A Gear Ratio = 2.749 Vacuum Ref =+100.80 TachoSelect = 3 Ramp Up = 10 Ramp Down = 0 Ramp Command = 10
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Date and Time: 2003-02-08 - 00:00:00
Dyno Correction Factor No Correction

This vehicle is stock