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Old 07-20-2008, 12:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
scottherbert
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3 Degrees Negative

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Originally Posted by BigBrother
To do with discussion in the other thread - temp readings on a drivers-side abusive course were 128 inside, 130 middle, 133 outside on the drivers side front. And that's with -2.7 degrees on that wheel and 44-45 psi running pressure - and still coming dangerously close to rolling it too much. My grease pencil marks were inderterminate; they wore off further down than they should but only on runs where I botched a corner and pushed too much - and every time I marked the tires (3 runs out of 6) I ended up doing that, LMAO. The temp readings were consistant though, 5 to 8 degree spread from inside to outside on that wheel. Passenger side was unreliable data; the finish left me with the passenger wheel inside and spinning wildly, so the inside edge was consistantly reading 8 or 10 degrees over the middle and outside 'cuz it got heated up right at the finish. Grr. Anyway - I still say these cars need -3* in the front with DOT slicks. Everything says so, pyrometer, wear, everything. I can't believe it's worth giving up that grip to have a little less wheelspin under exit IMHO. :shrugs: We'll see, when I go to get the alignment fixed I'm gonna go for -3 even on each side.
I've run 3.0 degrees of negative and it certainly helped in the corners. The problem I've had at the higher negative settings, in DS, is that the inside front only has a very small strip of rubber on the ground in a hard corner (almost no torque), so I was able to spin the fronts more easily and couldn't get on the gas as quickly at exit. Result, I was slower. I pulled way back to -1.5 as an experiment and I've been a little quicker -- but I changed my driving style to accommodate -- I braked late, coasted through the entry of the corner (no power, no brakes), tried to make almost a 90 degree turn out of everything, and was then able to accellerate hard coming out of most corners. Result, faster than before.

BTW, I bought a pair of used 225/45 x 17 Hoosier A6s from a guy a couple of years ago -- supposed to have some life left -- I ran them on the rear to save some money (because I was trying to be cheap after I'd won two new A6s from Hoosier after a National Tour Event win in DS) -- so... I swapped ends on the very first hard corner. The tires corded after one run -- but thay only cost $10 so I couldn't really complain, and he had no way of knowing how little life was left. So much for being cheap!

Scott
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