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Old 01-22-2007, 07:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Will the F35 (MU3) transmission work in a 2.2 QC manual Ion?

Will the RL ION F35 (MU3) transmission work in a 2.2 QC manual Ion?
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't see why not..I know some of us have thought about converting to automatics to handle more power..
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I believe the axle splines at the differential are a different pattern. Shaft lengths may also be an issue. You could use Redline axles and I think they would still mate to the 2.2 hubs. The input shaft is probably splined differently as well. I think the bell housing will mate up to the block but I'm not sure of flywheel/clutch matchup. You would probably have to swap out the shifter and cables. Not 100% sure on any of these but they are possible problems you could run into. As of now I haven't had either transmission out of an Ion to compare... I'm sure someone who has could elaborate more.
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I've seen the Redline/SSSC transmission out of the car (multiple times), but haven't seen a regular QC's tranny.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They are swappable. Most forget that the MU3 was in the manual 4-banger L-cars. You would need the transmission, shift cables, mounts, halfshaft and axles from a Redline or CSS. The one variable I think there is, is the oil pan designs, you may need the updated pan, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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They are swappable. Most forget that the MU3 was in the manual 4-banger L-cars. You would need the transmission, shift cables, mounts, halfshaft and axles from a Redline or CSS. The one variable I think there is, is the oil pan designs, you may need the updated pan, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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I believe the axle splines at the differential are a different pattern. Shaft lengths may also be an issue. You could use Redline axles and I think they would still mate to the 2.2 hubs. The input shaft is probably splined differently as well. I think the bell housing will mate up to the block but I'm not sure of flywheel/clutch matchup. You would probably have to swap out the shifter and cables. Not 100% sure on any of these but they are possible problems you could run into. As of now I haven't had either transmission out of an Ion to compare... I'm sure someone who has could elaborate more.
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The only grey area that I'm not 100% sure about is the clutch/flywheel. I'm 90% sure you would need to switch to a MU3 clutch/flywheel. Might as well get an aftermarket couple if you are doing this all anyways. Exedy FTW! I'll check on the differences a bit later...
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The only grey area that I'm not 100% sure about is the clutch/flywheel. I'm 90% sure you would need to switch to a MU3 clutch/flywheel. Might as well get an aftermarket couple if you are doing this all anyways. Exedy FTW! I'll check on the differences a bit later...
clutch/flywheel upgrade is already planned so yeah - not a biggie. i'm just worried about grenading the tranny eventually...

ironically, a "what would i have to do to upgrade the tranny?" question was on my mind all last night
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There again..this transmission isn't going to hold a whole hell of alot though.
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