Harrop TVS - Coming Soon!!

[Cat Ion]

If I may jump in for a sec and ask for anyone on here who's responding to all the questions earlier........why would Harrop make this TVS to be a 'direct replacement' for the M62 and NOT factor in what's already available for us to use/buy/install on the LSJ to make it worth said customer's hard earned money to be used on it? I'm asking why is everyone so skeptical whether it's worth anyone's time and money to replace their M62 with the TVS? Don't you think they'll clue us in as to what all needs to be done to the car to make this work, i.e. altered program or boxed HP tune, recommendations on fuel rail mods, injector size requirements, etc? I would be foolish to think that it can be a simple swap of the blower and you're done, but I also think they would be foolish to simply make a better screw for this car and not have all the parameter requirements listed prior to sale in order to make the customer aware of what they're in for by buying it.......

Done rambling......sorry.

[handyjoe]

Originally Posted by Cat Ion

If I may jump in for a sec and ask for anyone on here who's responding to all the questions earlier........why would Harrop make this TVS to be a 'direct replacement' for the M62 and NOT factor in what's already available for us to use/buy/install on the LSJ to make it worth said customer's hard earned money to be used on it? I'm asking why is everyone so skeptical whether it's worth anyone's time and money to replace their M62 with the TVS? Don't you think they'll clue us in as to what all needs to be done to the car to make this work, i.e. altered program or boxed HP tune, recommendations on fuel rail mods, injector size requirements, etc? I would be foolish to think that it can be a simple swap of the blower and you're done, but I also think they would be foolish to simply make a better screw for this car and not have all the parameter requirements listed prior to sale in order to make the customer aware of what they're in for by buying it.......

Done rambling......sorry.

Its not for sale yet.

They will be testing it and letting us know the results.

[SCblkRL]

just like handyjoe said, initial plans are to get a handful of these out to some shops for testing to see EXACTLY what will be needed. Of course, injectors, tune are going to be the main components for this to work. I highly doubt you will be able to take a stock or even staged car for that matter and bolt this up without any tuning.

[Area47]

Originally Posted by 04Redline0124

dynojets read higher then mustangs do..and with a hot bottle which is around a 400 psi increas...i should pick up around 20 more whp..plus the dynojet i should be at 350 whp!

yes. run it leaner. that works

you logic on nitrous is flawed.


as witt said, this is far from my first rodeo.

[mrphoto103]

Originally Posted by SCblkRL

just like handyjoe said, initial plans are to get a handful of these out to some shops for testing to see EXACTLY what will be needed. Of course, injectors, tune are going to be the main components for this to work. I highly doubt you will be able to take a stock or even staged car for that matter and bolt this up without any tuning.

anything new btw?

[04Redline0124]

Originally Posted by Italianjoe1

Don't bother. I'm the one who installed the nitrous for him, and have fixed a lot of other fucked up things on his car that other people did. I'm trying to convince him that what he's doing, especially without a wideband in the car, is dangerous. He doesn't seem to care though. He also insists that the 44/26 jets in the car are only a 75 shot, but he made almost 80 more whp on the mustang with the bottle not heated. He also has no pressure gauge on the bottle, so he claims low pressure, but has no clue what it really was, other than that it wasn't artifically raised.

we dan debate this jet issue all day.....and i know my pressure was low because the bottle was NOT warm.

and to ur area..since u think my logic is flawed, you shouldnt speak without knowing that my a/f on the dyno was 10.8 at WOT, then with the smaller fuel jet in it was 11.0..with a warmer bottle it shall lean it up JUST NICELY!!!!!!!!!!

[sheek360]

Originally Posted by Area47

your information is flawed. severely.

i sprayed my last car for a year straight n 60-120hp shot.
before that was two years straight on a 75 shot.
before that was a year on a 50 shot
before that was 3 years on a 75 shot
in the way back machine was 100 shot for almost 4 years.

is that all on the same car, what car<s> was it

[Italianjoe1]

Originally Posted by Area47

your information is flawed. severely.

i sprayed my last car for a year straight n 60-120hp shot.
before that was two years straight on a 75 shot.
before that was a year on a 50 shot
before that was 3 years on a 75 shot
in the way back machine was 100 shot for almost 4 years.

you have to know what you're doing first and foremost.

i have never blown an engine on nitrous. every single car i have put nitrous on has not blown either.

Amen. A PROPERLY done nitrous setup is perfectly safe, unless it pushes the power output level past what the engines components can take, which would happen with any other power adder. Nitrous is also far easier to do wrong and much cheaper, also much simpler to add big power levels. I am relatively new to the bottle, but with my setup, my dads truck, and 2 other installs in the last couple months, I have no doubt that a well put together quality setup will last for as long as the rest of the car. If you overstress the engine with a turbo, it will blow up. Same with nitrous. People that blame engine death solely on the nitrous itself have no understanding of what it does or why, and need to keep thier mouths shut.

[Area47]

each year segment was a different car.

it's all in the end user on if the motor lives or dies.

the rule of 1/3rd's is usually the safest to live by in terms of nitrous to engine crank hp.

that applies for stock engines. i however have never fully followed this. so do it at your own risk.


remember, someone always knows more than you do. just pay attention when you catch that moment

[Darkmanx]

Originally Posted by Area47

each year segment was a different car.

it's all in the end user on if the motor lives or dies.

the rule of 1/3rd's is usually the safest to live by in terms of nitrous to engine crank hp.

that applies for stock engines. i however have never fully followed this. so do it at your own risk.


remember, someone always knows more than you do. just pay attention when you catch that moment

Ya'll better listen to that knowledge that area be spitting, hes the driver of the shortbus and also a teacher of shortbus university and an alumni