Buying car tomorrow, need answer NOW!!! lol

[VAZ]

My gf is looking at buying a 06 ION redline and the dealership is saying that the car has a stage 3 kit. They keep bringing it up like it's super rare and desirable.

My questions are....

1) What exactly is a stage 3 kit? (specifically)

2) How can I tell for certain that it indeed has the stage 3 kit?

Thansk guys, and sorry for the nooby questions. If she buys this thing, you'll be seeing alot more of both of us on here... lol

[BeansIRL]

Stage three kit is smaller pulley and bigger injectors and they reflash the computer to handle it. The dealer should be able to tell possibly by running the vin but measure the pulley size once, i think the stock pulley is 3.1" correct me if i'm wrong it may be 3.25" but i know for sure its above 3". the stage 2 pulley i believe is 3". so check the pulley and injectors .

[clevelander2002]

Stage 3 is 42.5# injectors, smaller supercharger pulley, 7K rpm rev limiter and a different pcm that is tuned to allow for the use of nitrous.

[clevelander2002]

Originally Posted by BeansIRL

Stage three kit is smaller pulley and bigger injectors and they reflash the computer to handle it. The dealer should be able to tell possibly by running the vin but measure the pulley size once, i think the stock pulley is 3.1" correct me if i'm wrong it may be 3.25" but i know for sure its above 3". the stage 2 pulley i believe is 3". so check the pulley and injectors .

Stock pulley is 3.35" and the stage 2/3 is 79mm which is about 3.1"

[Flatlander]

Quote from crate engine depo
Take your ION Red Line to the next level with our Stage 3 Off-Road kit!

The Stage 3 kit consists of the following:
• Smaller, 76mm supercharger pulley
• 2-pass intercooler end plate
• Unique PCM which includes a calibration for the smaller pulley, an adjustable rev limiter, a 100 octane mode, and a nitrous algorithm.

Our Stage 3 kit will take your supercharged Ecotec to a whole new level of performance. Stage 3 takes horsepower output to 248 on 93 octane fuel and to 260 horsepower on 100 octane fuel.
In addition to the power increase, you'll also get an adjustable rev limiter and calibration for a 50 shot of nitrous (nitrous kit not included).
For best power, we recommend also installing a high-flow exhaust.

The PCM is equipped with a user adjustable rev limit from 6750 to 8000 rpm. The rev limit is adjusted by pressing on the throttle pedal with the ignition on and engine off. At about 50% throttle the tachometer will show the current rev limit. Pressing the throttle further will adjust the rev limit in 250 rpm increments. This PCM is also equipped with a control scheme for the equivalent of a 50-horse shot of Nitrous. The PCM will automatically provide the proper spark and fuel for A Nitrous up to 500 rpm below the current selected rev limit when the trigger is activated.

[VAZ]

Originally Posted by Flatlander

Quote from crate engine depo
Take your ION Red Line to the next level with our Stage 3 Off-Road kit!

The Stage 3 kit consists of the following:
• Smaller, 76mm supercharger pulley
• 2-pass intercooler end plate
• Unique PCM which includes a calibration for the smaller pulley, an adjustable rev limiter, a 100 octane mode, and a nitrous algorithm.

Our Stage 3 kit will take your supercharged Ecotec to a whole new level of performance. Stage 3 takes horsepower output to 248 on 93 octane fuel and to 260 horsepower on 100 octane fuel.
In addition to the power increase, you'll also get an adjustable rev limiter and calibration for a 50 shot of nitrous (nitrous kit not included).
For best power, we recommend also installing a high-flow exhaust.

The PCM is equipped with a user adjustable rev limit from 6750 to 8000 rpm. The rev limit is adjusted by pressing on the throttle pedal with the ignition on and engine off. At about 50% throttle the tachometer will show the current rev limit. Pressing the throttle further will adjust the rev limit in 250 rpm increments. This PCM is also equipped with a control scheme for the equivalent of a 50-horse shot of Nitrous. The PCM will automatically provide the proper spark and fuel for A Nitrous up to 500 rpm below the current selected rev limit when the trigger is activated.

Ok, So if we ever did spray it I wouldn't need to anything other than install the bottle and run the lines? The PCM automatically adjusts? Will it automatically adjust when I put in 100 octane?

Also, how can I check myself about the stage 3 kit? Just measure the pulley? I've also heard the stage 3 has no A/C. And whats the deal with "off-road"? It's street legal right?

Sorry for all the Q's...

[hawlyns711]

could be intense stage 3 as well

http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/...ry_Code=LSJ_PP

[Flatlander]

Sme reading for you
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...s-W57C196.aspx
and
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1725C196.aspx

[Cat Ion]

Also, if it's a GM stage 3 the AC won't work.

[VAZ]

Great info guys. Thanks.

Now how can I tell from looking under tha hood?