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Old 01-22-2006, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question hey zfactor!! - lowering spring qq

since you can't be bothered to clear out your mailbox once in a while, I'll have to post this for the entire world to read!

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ok,
since you seem to have tried out all of the currently available lowering springs, which ones would you say will give me the stiffest & lowest possible drop at this time?

I want to be able to use 225x45x17 tires, hopefully without rubbing, so I'm guessing it will be necessary to use a stiffer spring to avoid rubbing issues (I could be wrong on this asumption).

and also because I auto-X and road race occasionally, I think the stifferness would be useful for that too.

I've been tempted to go with the B&G's just because you have said they are the most trouble-free so far, but then I'm reluctant because I want to get as much drop as possible.

I'm quite confused by the selection of springs, I don't really understand the differences, and it's difficult to make an educated choice when there doesn't seem to be any side-by-side technical comparisons available, nor picture/visual comparisons either.

i.e. drop amt & spring rates, etc

for myself, I know that I do not care for all of that wheel gap that my car has in its stock form. and I'd like to lower it as far as possible.

I am concerned about some of the clunking and vibrations that have been reported with some of the springs, and confused why others do not seem to notice issues.
are these just a bunch of ignorant people?
or perhaps they just don't care about such minor side effects.
maybe looks supercede performance.
or are there variations due to spring manufacturing or vehicle manufacturing?

sigh....who knows......

it seems like a bit of a turkey-shoot. such a shame.

any advice??
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Z whats better:

The new Eibachs (that fit the RL)
Or the B+G's
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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since you can't be bothered to clear out your mailbox once in a while, I'll have to post this for the entire world to read!

sorry didnt realize it was full.....

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i have a 300zx tt that i used to race everyone around here with and used to almost always win (840hp) so they used to say i was the "z-factor" like the thing that would turn the race sorta i geuss just an accuired name...
ok,
since you seem to have tried out all of the currently available lowering springs, which ones would you say will give me the stiffest & lowest possible drop at this time?

well as far as stiffnes goes vs lowering id have to say prob the eibachs..

I want to be able to use 225x45x17 tires, hopefully without rubbing, so I'm guessing it will be necessary to use a stiffer spring to avoid rubbing issues (I could be wrong on this asumption).

you should be ok with those tires... i havent used that size so i cant say for sure but i wouldnt think that would be a real issue...

and also because I auto-X and road race occasionally, I think the stifferness would be useful for that too.

I've been tempted to go with the B&G's just because you have said they are the most trouble-free so far, but then I'm reluctant because I want to get as much drop as possible.

I'm quite confused by the selection of springs, I don't really understand the differences, and it's difficult to make an educated choice when there doesn't seem to be any side-by-side technical comparisons available, nor picture/visual comparisons either.

i.e. drop amt & spring rates, etc

yeah i know thats why i have tried them all myself. since there were no comparisons done on this car. i know what all the specs mean and how they will affect the car so that wasnt the issue. i have noticed that almost all of them seem to look very similar on this car for some reason the stated drop does not affect the look of the lowered ride height nearly as much on this car. and even with stated drop #'s you get actually more drop than what is advertised with all of the springs for the ion. i measured all the ones i had on my car, wes at sms states the same thing as well....

for myself, I know that I do not care for all of that wheel gap that my car has in its stock form. and I'd like to lower it as far as possible.

so far almost 2.2" was the lowest i had from the sprint springs...

I am concerned about some of the clunking and vibrations that have been reported with some of the springs, and confused why others do not seem to notice issues.
are these just a bunch of ignorant people?
or perhaps they just don't care about such minor side effects.
maybe looks supercede performance.
or are there variations due to spring manufacturing or vehicle manufacturing?

well this is a hard one. ive been building and working on cars for the just over 12 years. and i am also EXTREMELY PICKY when it comes to my car. everything needs to be just so or i am not happy. the car will have a slight clunking noise with almost any spring. this is only when the wheels is turned completly to one extreme side though. like i mean turning the wheel all the way as far as it can go to one side...... and its not a real loud clunk either except for with the sprints i had...
some may not notice these thing and some have also stated on here they didnt care and lived with these issues. also a lot depends on this car. they seem to be made with so many varianced in the balance of the half shafts that some feel the vibes WAY MORE than others. my car is a perfect example. some of the other redline or ions same deal, that i installed springs on like the sprints hardly had any vibes at all... but they were 100% still there just much more slight than my car. my car with the sprints was HORRIBLE!!!!! i couldnt even stand driving it that way... the steering wheel would visibly shake badly while just cruising and went nuts while accelerating!!! i dont think they are ignorant as you say but maybe unaware, or as i said they have stated they dont care.
sigh....who knows...... its nto the springs variances that do this at all.. they are made to tight tolerances, apperantly better than our cars, lol.

it seems like a bit of a turkey-shoot. such a shame.

any advice??

and yes it is just a bit of a turkey shoot. nothing else to say about that. the b+g's were the best balance for me. if you dont care about the vibes than by all means right now by the eibachs. me i dont even install the sprints any longer on this car at my shop.

hoope that sorta helps, not to much to say about a car that has issues with being lowered and springs that dont offer much or any tecch info about them. i have posted spring rates here before.
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Will the eibachs damage the half shafts over a long period of time
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Old 01-23-2006, 08:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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they could, but not likely. no way of knowing though till someone rides on em for that long.... like i said maybe but i cant be sure at this point yet....i dont believe that its that extreme of an angle to where it would cause any damage anytime soon though....
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