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Old 06-28-2006, 10:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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it's not overkill. No mounts you do can control the control arm deflection a car gets on a hard launch. That's why honda's use traction bars, why srt's use traction bars, and why you guys will too .

Me and Mike are competitors on srtforums, but we actually work very closely together. We just had a redline in our hands tonight and will have a working setup ready to go by this weekend. If everything looks good, we may release 10 more sets (at a discounted rate, probably about 260 + shipping (both of our srt setups are @ 300+ but the redline won't be as expensive).

Sets are complete, nuts, bolts, washers, everything, just like our traction bar setups for these (we actually both bring to market a different style of traction bars for the srt, but with the market so small over here, we're going to combine forces and work together on it instead of against each other)
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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it's not overkill. No mounts you do can control the control arm deflection a car gets on a hard launch. That's why honda's use traction bars, why srt's use traction bars, and why you guys will too .

Me and Mike are competitors on srtforums, but we actually work very closely together. We just had a redline in our hands tonight and will have a working setup ready to go by this weekend. If everything looks good, we may release 10 more sets (at a discounted rate, probably about 260 + shipping (both of our srt setups are @ 300+ but the redline won't be as expensive).

Sets are complete, nuts, bolts, washers, everything, just like our traction bar setups for these (we actually both bring to market a different style of traction bars for the srt, but with the market so small over here, we're going to combine forces and work together on it instead of against each other)
I would LOVE to get my hands on one...pushing the budget as it is, but wheel hop sucks.

Do you think we could ditch the front/rear torque braces, or would you suggest adding this to the current setup? (Mounts, front and rear torque braces AND the traction bars)
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hmm. I smell a spoiled twinkie. Won't the torque brace do the same thing?
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no, the torque brace does not do the same thing. This is our setup installed on an srt-4



These are actually controlling deflection of the control arm on the vehicle. Engine movement is NOT the only thing that causes wheel hop. We've proven this time and time again by cars only using motor mount INSERTS (lil $24 inserts) with our bars having no hop.

When you launch, and the tire grips, it actually PULLS the control arm forward in the car, as the tire breaks loose, it springs back to it's natural position only to pull forward again. This creates alot of hop when you're on that edge of traction, and you either need to lift out of it, power out of it (just roast the tires through it) or break something. Your choice. With the bars in place, the control arm is no longer able to push forward, and stays in it's perpindicular positioning.

Furthermore, by keeping the tire square to the ground, you also increase the contact patch of the tire on the ground, further promoting traction. Our customers get lower 60' times, and become more consistent pass after pass with the cars as it becomes very predictable.

here's a link to read a bit more about what some of my customers think about them.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239349
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no, the torque brace does not do the same thing. This is our setup installed on an srt-4



These are actually controlling deflection of the control arm on the vehicle. Engine movement is NOT the only thing that causes wheel hop. We've proven this time and time again by cars only using motor mount INSERTS (lil $24 inserts) with our bars having no hop.

When you launch, and the tire grips, it actually PULLS the control arm forward in the car, as the tire breaks loose, it springs back to it's natural position only to pull forward again. This creates alot of hop when you're on that edge of traction, and you either need to lift out of it, power out of it (just roast the tires through it) or break something. Your choice. With the bars in place, the control arm is no longer able to push forward, and stays in it's perpindicular positioning.

Furthermore, by keeping the tire square to the ground, you also increase the contact patch of the tire on the ground, further promoting traction. Our customers get lower 60' times, and become more consistent pass after pass with the cars as it becomes very predictable.

here's a link to read a bit more about what some of my customers think about them.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239349
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hehe, fullthrottle, we're already workin on 'em Like I said, we finally got our hands on a test car, and we should have a set up and running on it by early next week at the latest. Hammer out some tests on the road and all, and then we're even going to take it to the track and see how it does. What would you guys think about 4-5 back to back 1.9-2.0 60's
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id say sweet you have a ballpark price range for us.
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hehe, fullthrottle, we're already workin on 'em Like I said, we finally got our hands on a test car, and we should have a set up and running on it by early next week at the latest. Hammer out some tests on the road and all, and then we're even going to take it to the track and see how it does. What would you guys think about 4-5 back to back 1.9-2.0 60's
On street tires?

I'd have to say that I want set #1 and I need it before the 15th! In fact, there's probably a couple of us SCRLA'ers that will want sets, so you could just ship them all together!
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I'm gonna roughly say 275 or so. They're going to be cheaper then our srt-4 setups as it's less materials. We got testing and all to do before we figure in anything as the design may change quite a few times till we find one we like. At that point, we'll put up a few more test pieces on the market for a discounted rate before they go into production
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