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Old 03-03-2005, 08:10 AM   #1
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91 Corvette

Driving to work at 4:00 a.m. on SB 15 and get cut off by some guy in a vette. SO being the asshole that I am I get behind him, I hear him down shift (auto) so I do the same, anyways longstory short, from about an 85mph 4th gear roll on I stay exactally the same distance beside him all the way till 140. Granted the car is 14 years old and has god knows how many miles on it, or how it was tsken care of. It was totally stock as far as I could tell (rims, ride height, exhaust etc.) Funny later on he got stuck behind some traffiec then pulled in behind me, and all I could think is "yeah . . . a Saturn" I got a good laugh when the guy looked at me in disbelief.
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Old 03-03-2005, 09:03 AM   #2
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Most vettes are collected so they dont see too many miles. So it was probably in great running condition. My gf's dad has an 88 vette with only 55,000 miles on it. My stang has 60k so..lol. I think 91 was still the l88 engine or sumthen like that so your story isnt hard to believe. 92 was the first year of the lt-1 i think and then thats a 14 flat car or less. i could be wrong. anyways good show!
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:01 AM   #3
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If I remeber correctly, the 91 would have about 250 HP at the crank (unless it was a ZR1 then it was 350). The car weighs nearly 3300 lbs. So yeah, I think you could hold your own against a 91 Vette (non ZR1) from any speed to redline in 5th gear.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:51 AM   #4
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I did it too today LOL!!!!

I read your thread this morning Hero and when I was on the freeway this afternoon I spotted a Vette around the same year (89-91?). As soon as I caught up with him, I put it in third and punched it. I watched him in my rearview and he followed suit. It took him a while to even catch up with me.

Then we had to slow down for traffic ahead. He exited on to the same cross freeway as me and was a couple of cars in front of me. When we got on, I quickly caught up to him and was on his ass. He punched it and tried to lose me by doing some "spirited manuevers" around traffic. Not a chance. I stayed with him the ENTIRE time. He got caught behind a truck so I made my move and blasted right by him on the left. The look on this dudes face was PRICELESS!!!! He was pissed that a Saturn was keeping up.

Traffic cleared and I took her up to about 125 and he couldn't catch me at that point.


I realize that the newer Vettes will hand us our ass but the fact that our little cars can hold their own against ANY Vette, period, is pretty damn impressive to me.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:18 PM   #5
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If I remeber correctly, the 91 would have about 250 HP at the crank (unless it was a ZR1 then it was 350). The car weighs nearly 3300 lbs. So yeah, I think you could hold your own against a 91 Vette (non ZR1) from any speed to redline in 5th gear.

91 was the last year of the L-98 TPI motor and were rated at 245 hp. The 1992 model year was the first to get the LT1 and they were rated at 300 hp.

The ZR1's LT5 motor was 375 (way underrated) hp from 91 to 92 and bumped up to 405 (again underrated) hp in 1993.

245 hp with an auto behind it is not going to much of a challange for our cars to keep up with. You probably would have taken him at lower speeds but the vette is a little better at cutting through the wind than our cars are at high speeds.
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:11 PM   #6
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Yea, older Vettes are not fast compared to new cars or especially new Corvettes. I have a '77 and the max horsepower from the factory was 195 if you got the high compression model of the 350, I think it was the L-88(?), not sure, mine came with the 180hp which I THINK was the L-48. Damn emissions and gas crisis, you should see what happens once you start opening up the exhaust and tossing the emissions crap. Dosen't even work worth a shit when it was new. Just trashing the emissions, and adding a dual 2.5" exhaust, headers, and intake manifold, changed the engine from bogging down when I stomped on it to ripping both tires loose, and that's not easy with a posi-rear. I'm not sure where I'm at yet, I need to make a serious dyno trip with my Redline and the Vette, but I can't find a reasonably priced one around here.

Just remember, keeping up with the car that has been the leader of American sports cars since 1958 is VERY impressive, older, newer, don't matter. Those Vette's are loaded with go-fast stuff, my '77 with the still original suspension and rubber bushings, cuts a corner so hard that I'm not sure my Redline could stay with it in the corners, and the brakes on it... VERY nice for a 30yr old car, and they're not new either.

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Old 03-03-2005, 01:25 PM   #7
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Just remember, keeping up with the car that has been the leader of American sports cars since 1958 is VERY impressive, older, newer, don't matter.



That's what I'm saying bro!!!!

I was really suprised and so was the Vette driver today.
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91 was the last year of the L-98 TPI motor and were rated at 245 hp. The 1992 model year was the first to get the LT1 and they were rated at 300 hp.

The ZR1's LT5 motor was 375 (way underrated) hp from 91 to 92 and bumped up to 405 (again underrated) hp in 1993.

245 hp with an auto behind it is not going to much of a challange for our cars to keep up with. You probably would have taken him at lower speeds but the vette is a little better at cutting through the wind than our cars are at high speeds.


Ok its the l-98. My gf's dad has a 88 auto. Very nice car tho but i looked up the stats and it was like 14.6 stock in the quarter. So u are right, had it been at a lower speed it might have been the RL's race. My ex friend had an auto 92 vette...fast as hell!!!
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:44 PM   #9
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Yea, older Vettes are not fast compared to new cars or especially new Corvettes. I have a '77 and the max horsepower from the factory was 195 if you got the high compression model of the 350, I think it was the L-88(?), not sure, mine came with the 180hp which I THINK was the L-48. Damn emissions and gas crisis, you should see what happens once you start opening up the exhaust and tossing the emissions crap. Dosen't even work worth a shit when it was new. Just trashing the emissions, and adding a dual 2.5" exhaust, headers, and intake manifold, changed the engine from bogging down when I stomped on it to ripping both tires loose, and that's not easy with a posi-rear. I'm not sure where I'm at yet, I need to make a serious dyno trip with my Redline and the Vette, but I can't find a reasonably priced one around here.

Just remember, keeping up with the car that has been the leader of American sports cars since 1958 is VERY impressive, older, newer, don't matter. Those Vette's are loaded with go-fast stuff, my '77 with the still original suspension and rubber bushings, cuts a corner so hard that I'm not sure my Redline could stay with it in the corners, and the brakes on it... VERY nice for a 30yr old car, and they're not new either.

Good run, good times...

Yeah when they started adding that shit to the muscle cars in the 70's and went from gross horsepower to net horsepower their egos took a hit. The 79 5.0 mustang only had 145 horses...but now car makers are better at making the horses and still being clean.
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:00 PM   #10
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THE late 70s throught the early 80s ( up to 81) vettes a dogs. i have a 78 vette with an l-82(225 hp) with 25,000 miles on it. anyway it is SLOW. i have not been to the track with it but it has to be runnin like a 16 second 1/4 mile. as for the tbi moters and the tpi moters they run strong. my father had a jaguar xjs that we put a tpi in and it was pretty fast......mid 14s stock except headers and exaust. i think it was about 260 hp. as for lhe lt1 vettes they are fast, i have the lt1 in my car(an impala ss) and it ran a 14.86 stock, which isnt to shabby considering it weighs over 4300 lbs with me in it. idont know what the lt1 vettes weight but the abuse my car pretty bad. i dont know if the redline could keep up with any of them.....but you guys should be pullin on the tpi vettes, and abusing anything from like 75 -81 those are so slow, but they are buetiful cars at the least.
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