to clear up some words...

[bizkitlimped]

i own a 99 mustang gt...the one colin's been talkin about...laser red with bbk cold air intake, ford racing heavy duty clutch, trick flow upper intake plenum kona short throw shifter pacesetter off road h-pipe bbk mil eliminators flowmaster american thunder cat back...me and colin were at gandy this past weekend...we run numerous times...i was interested in seeing how much his header helped him, compared to the last dozen times we've raced...we pull onto the bridge heading towards dale mabry...he has one passenger i have 2...we get staged at our normal 50 roll...which for me is 3rd gear, at 3k...he gives the honors of 3 honks...i downshift into second...tires break loose...he pulls ahead...my nose at his rear bumper...i hit 3rd...still the same...i begin to pull late 3rd into 4th gear i continue to pull stretchin 4th out to 6k into 5th i have made my way ahead of him by maybe half a car...we shut down at 125-130...we go again coming the opposite way on the bridge...this time he catches me in a lower 3rd...ima say about a 40 roll...i downshift...he pulls a car again...this time i couldnt catch up...tie ball game...this is the way it goes just about every time...he gets me from a 50 roll every now and then but at a 40 roll he takes it...now...as for his other post about the mach 1...to the kid who said the mach ones have 305 hp to the wheels is full of shit...they come with 305 at the crank from the factory...calculate it being a 5 spd. with a 15% driveline loss and u have urself roughly 259hp to the wheels...now u have to take into the account of the power to weight ratio...which would slightly be in the upper hand of the mach 1...considering my car's gross vehicle weight rating is at 4260lbs...it is possible for his car to beat a stock mach 1, with an above average driver...even if it's a "girl" which means nothing...

[LittleMT]

the Redline held its own!

[planetSlowCar1]

And in reality GT's dyno at even less than that. Considering the weight why is it even surpising that he stayed with you?

[elohdaeh78]

Originally Posted by bizkitlimped

i own a 99 mustang gt...the one colin's been talkin about...laser red with bbk cold air intake, ford racing heavy duty clutch, trick flow upper intake plenum kona short throw shifter pacesetter off road h-pipe bbk mil eliminators flowmaster american thunder cat back...me and colin were at gandy this past weekend...we run numerous times...i was interested in seeing how much his header helped him, compared to the last dozen times we've raced...we pull onto the bridge heading towards dale mabry...he has one passenger i have 2...we get staged at our normal 50 roll...which for me is 3rd gear, at 3k...he gives the honors of 3 honks...i downshift into second...tires break loose...he pulls ahead...my nose at his rear bumper...i hit 3rd...still the same...i begin to pull late 3rd into 4th gear i continue to pull stretchin 4th out to 6k into 5th i have made my way ahead of him by maybe half a car...we shut down at 125-130...we go again coming the opposite way on the bridge...this time he catches me in a lower 3rd...ima say about a 40 roll...i downshift...he pulls a car again...this time i couldnt catch up...tie ball game...this is the way it goes just about every time...he gets me from a 50 roll every now and then but at a 40 roll he takes it...now...as for his other post about the mach 1...to the kid who said the mach ones have 305 hp to the wheels is full of shit...they come with 305 at the crank from the factory...calculate it being a 5 spd. with a 15% driveline loss and u have urself roughly 259hp to the wheels...now u have to take into the account of the power to weight ratio...which would slightly be in the upper hand of the mach 1...considering my car's gross vehicle weight rating is at 4260lbs...it is possible for his car to beat a stock mach 1, with an above average driver...even if it's a "girl" which means nothing...

Since when goes a mustang GT weigh 4200lbs? I thought they were more like 3300

[bikeluver43]

Originally Posted by bizkitlimped

i own a 99 mustang gt...the one colin's been talkin about...laser red with bbk cold air intake, ford racing heavy duty clutch, trick flow upper intake plenum kona short throw shifter pacesetter off road h-pipe bbk mil eliminators flowmaster american thunder cat back...me and colin were at gandy this past weekend...we run numerous times...i was interested in seeing how much his header helped him, compared to the last dozen times we've raced...we pull onto the bridge heading towards dale mabry...he has one passenger i have 2...we get staged at our normal 50 roll...which for me is 3rd gear, at 3k...he gives the honors of 3 honks...i downshift into second...tires break loose...he pulls ahead...my nose at his rear bumper...i hit 3rd...still the same...i begin to pull late 3rd into 4th gear i continue to pull stretchin 4th out to 6k into 5th i have made my way ahead of him by maybe half a car...we shut down at 125-130...we go again coming the opposite way on the bridge...this time he catches me in a lower 3rd...ima say about a 40 roll...i downshift...he pulls a car again...this time i couldnt catch up...tie ball game...this is the way it goes just about every time...he gets me from a 50 roll every now and then but at a 40 roll he takes it...now...as for his other post about the mach 1...to the kid who said the mach ones have 305 hp to the wheels is full of shit...they come with 305 at the crank from the factory...calculate it being a 5 spd. with a 15% driveline loss and u have urself roughly 259hp to the wheels...now u have to take into the account of the power to weight ratio...which would slightly be in the upper hand of the mach 1...considering my car's gross vehicle weight rating is at 4260lbs...it is possible for his car to beat a stock mach 1, with an above average driver...even if it's a "girl" which means nothing...

Before you call people full of shit about the Mach1, go here- www.mach1registry.com and see what Mach1's actually dyno. The 300HP to the WHEELS was a car with JUST a Mac Prochamber exhaust. Stock they are seeing 280-290hp to the Wheels. Which is why it couldn't be possible he beat one when he can't even beat a lightly modified 99 GT. Just to "clear up".

[bizkitlimped]

okay if u know so much...then u would know that there are 2 diff. types of dynos...loaded...and unloaded...a loaded dyno will give you much more of an accurate reading...u also have to take that into consideration

[mbhmustang98]

4200 lbs, u must have one fat ass stang..damn thats more then an 03 cobra vert!!

[bizkitlimped]

the weight i gave is not the curb weight...which is the weight of the car with a full tank of gas and no passengers...i didn't know the curb weight for my gt so i gave u the gross vechile weight...which is a full tank full cargo and passengers...gvw for the redline stands at 3703lbs...curb weight for my car is 3273lbs

[TransAm52804]

Ford coulda underrated the Mach 1 like GM did to our FBodies: LS1 FBodies were crank rated at 305-310 for the non-WS6 and SS models, and 320-325 for the WS6 and SS, yet they all dyno around 300-320 to the rear wheels, which puts them at about 345-365 crank h.p.

It's funny because the 'Vette was rated by crank h.p., and the FBodies were actually rated at the wheels, but GM didn't announce it that way lol. Also, the 'Vettes generally tend to dyno a little less at the wheels than the FBodies do because the independent rear suspension on the 'Vettes eat up a bit more h.p., but they have a 200 lb weight and aerodynamic advantage over our cars which is why they're slightly quicker and faster.

Damn, that was a lot of LS1 schooling. Sorry guys lol.

Anyways, back to the original topic: is it possible that Ford underrated the Mach 1's (which I love BTW)?

[Bad Ash]

A buddy of mine has a Mach 1 (automatic) with an exhaust and runs 13.5's all day at the track. So there is no way that car is going to beat a Stock or lightly modded Mach 1.