ebristol said it perfectly... and it makes sense and if i remember correctly... i think cobalt addiction has their car twin charged and was at the last show... ill stop in there one day this week and find out all the info... but either way im about 90% sure the redline will be twincharged in december
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Depending on the size of turbo you use, spool up time is small enough to be a non issue (full boost at ~3000 RPM). I'd be curious to see what would be the power difference between a twincharge car running 20 PSI and a turboed car running 20 PSI. I'd be willing to bet the turbo car has noticeably more power.
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Originally Posted by Witt
With the lack of an explanation I have to conclude that the use of "magic" is being used to provide pressure above what the stock regulator offers as well as a variable in order to drive fuel pressure in a ratio to manifold pressure.
Depending on the size of turbo you use, spool up time is small enough to be a non issue (full boost at ~3000 RPM).
There are a lot of factors that contribute to spool time. With the Twincharge setup you don't have to worry about those.
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Originally Posted by Dainslaif
I'd be curious to see what would be the power difference between a twincharge car running 20 PSI and a turboed car running 20 PSI. I'd be willing to bet the turbo car has noticeably more power.
Same thing with this statement. There are several factors to consider to make all things equal.
But I would guess that a 20psi turbo'd engine would have more peak hp then a 20psi twincharged engine. But the Twincharged engine would have a much smoother powerband. Its all about how you want to make your power.
Overall, I think that a straight turbo setup is the easiest way to make big power. But that does not mean it is the best. My biggest problem is with people who say twincharging is not worth it. The way I look at it is that it is just another option for the LSJ. Its personal preference.
Ebristol, thank you for showing them the math involved. Most people think "Oh, 12psi from blower, plus 12psi from turbo = 24psi. ZOMG!!!1111!!!11111"
Thanks. But I am not sure if my math is 100%. There might be one part where your supposed to use 14.5 instead of 14.7. But I have not found the correct answer yet. But as you can guess it wont make a huge difference in the results.
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Everyone, keep in mind my posts in this thread are strictly regarding ZZP's crap attempt at twincharging.
No one has picked up on it yet but does ZZP actually open up the by-pass valve on the Eaton once the turbo boost kicks in? What do they use to control that?
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ebristol is wrong , TWINCHARGE FTL
:: throws on the hazards :: lmao :P
I would love to hear how you came up with this opinion.
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