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Old 12-24-2008, 08:30 AM   #91 (permalink)
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the mounts are unrotated LNFmounts... yawn....**** better. The clutch is an excellent price point with csc included...not sure about the axles
So Qwik, the GM "Wheel Hop Elimination" mounts are un-rotated mounts? They are just more firm, than the stock ones? If they are why would anyone get the GM ones? Prothane makes a much cheaper solution that does the same thing?
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:58 AM   #92 (permalink)
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So Qwik, the GM "Wheel Hop Elimination" mounts are un-rotated mounts? They are just more firm, than the stock ones? If they are why would anyone get the GM ones? Prothane makes a much cheaper solution that does the same thing?
uh coz no vibration i imagine, and some folks wanna buy GM (good for them) and have a lot of money to spend (sad for you if they go somewhere else) I have used and tested the LNF mounts. Took them out...

GM get on a bit of a arrogant streak sometimes, and despite what their own engineers say, the autocratic "not invented by me" guys in charge do it their way....they are learning, but it took 17 billion of your money to get them to wake up.

By the way John Heinricy understood and thats why he let me do the race cobalts that way once i showed him the results of our analysis and the work of a young engineer in charge of Cobalt integration in 03 04, who was so good working with us on the Cobalts that was one reason why he got to do the new Camaro. And he is a drag racer , this is an awesome guy and typical of the fine engineers at GM; Heinricy then got Grand Am to approve the rotated mount modification in December 04 for the 05 racing season...

another issue that no one has noticed is that the outer boots fail as the grease heats up in road racing if the engine is not rotated...in drag racing the heat build up is over only a 1/4 mile or 14 seconds or less so boot failure in unrotated engines does not show up. Buit Roush do the same thing, for drag racing its all in the GM build book. Enjoy that book they wont be doing another one for a long time. Merry Christmas Aaron.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:27 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Qwik, Thanks for the responce, we appricitate you took it the right way. We figured you would know more about this than anyone else Have a great Holiday.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:04 PM   #94 (permalink)
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well GM must have alot of people braking stuff on the LNF cobalts that is what these kits are for. but it is the same stuff that has been out for a couple of year but gm may warrenty this.
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MAY? wtf u talking about, this is GM part - therefore they warranty it.
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:10 PM   #96 (permalink)
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well GM must have alot of people braking stuff on the LNF cobalts that is what these kits are for. but it is the same stuff that has been out for a couple of year but gm may warrenty this.
the axles are good the mounts so so, but the clutch is the real deal and a real steal at the price...276.00 includes the CSC? be still my heart
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:13 PM   #97 (permalink)
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MAY? wtf u talking about, this is GM part - therefore they warranty it.
yeah MAY you half to remember IT's GM They warranty what they want to.
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^^ this iz true.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:49 AM   #99 (permalink)
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if the outer boots heat up under fairly hard use say as in driving for 15 minutes fairly hard thru the mountains with the stock mounts,,if you have the ttr mounts would the same effect happen or would ttrs mounts stop that from happening?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:04 AM   #100 (permalink)
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OH LOOKY WHAT I FOUND (thanks eb for the link)

heres a powerful balt launching @ 4k on 235wide tires with these mounts

wheel hop reduction rotated mounts- Video
This was the first video posted with the mounts, which everyone pointed at and said "see! these don't work either!"

Then Paul installed his and took a vid.
new rotated mounts installed - Cobalt SS Network
testing out the new mounts- Video

However, I still feel that the price point is a good 100-150 above what is really fair for what you get - you ship them your 2 mounts, they push in 2 inserts and ship them back with a little aluminum spacer. How they think that's worth $400 is anyone's guess.
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With the lack of an explanation I have to conclude that the use of "magic" is being used to provide pressure above what the stock regulator offers as well as a variable in order to drive fuel pressure in a ratio to manifold pressure.

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