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Is the ZZP stage 2 with vin programed PCM any good?

Ok so im looking to purchace the ZZP stage 2 kit with vin programed PCM. Now my question is, Will I need to do anything else to the car for it to run correctly? Or can I just put in the #50 injectors, 3.0 pully, larger belt tensoner pully and then plug in the PCM?

And is it any good? like does it really add much hp or not really?
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you trying to stage 2 tune your car?

If so, I would suggest finding a tuner locally and having them tune it. If you can't, the zzp will work fine.

The computer is just pretuned called a can tune. Can tunes aren't as effective. Yes it will increase hp with the items you mentioned.

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Ok thanks. I just didnt wanna spend the money and be dissapointed. Is there anything I should be careful with though? My car has high miles and im not really tryin to fuck shit up ya know
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Re: Is the ZZP stage 2 with vin programed PCM any good?

Also im reading alot about needing cooling mods. Should I worry with having high mileage? I mean it cant hurt right?

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Stage 2 is fine, get it on there and run it. It will be like a new car with 30 more hp

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Re: Is the ZZP stage 2 with vin programed PCM any good?

Cooing mods will help out. Verify your pump is running first. Dual pass endplate is a must

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All added cooling helps but isn't needed I've been runnin stage2 on stock cooling for 4 years with no problems. Yes make sure yer iv pump is working. As long as it has been maintained milage shouldn't matter. It will be a whole new car you will be pleased you could even have them tune a 2.9 and squeeze out some extra hp but start lookin at cooling stuff then.
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Re: Is the ZZP stage 2 with vin programed PCM any good?

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All added cooling helps but isn't needed I've been runnin stage2 on stock cooling for 4 years with no problems. Yes make sure yer iv pump is working. As long as it has been maintained milage shouldn't matter. It will be a whole new car you will be pleased you could even have them tune a 2.9 and squeeze out some extra hp but start lookin at cooling stuff then.
That may be more true up north. Down south, not so much. I can notice a major performance difference from hot to cool iats. Also, cooler iats allow for you to take more timing out of it before predetonation.

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We get 100deg days up here too just only fer about a month but reguardless I agree cooling stuff is a good idea Im just sayin for most its not a must at least right away. Alot depends on what ya doin too. Mine is a daily driver so I step on it gettin onto the highway and maybe take it to the 1/4 track. My cooling stuff is goin in this summer.
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Parts?

Does anyone kno of a good website to get cam gears, pcm , and good timing chain at? Tryen to replace the gears while i change the chain along wit the pcm... Any advice would help thankz guys
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