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Old 01-21-2005, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Different Performance Stages

well after about a good 45mins spent at the autoshow talking with the cobalt rep. he said that gm is going to be coming out with different stages very soon for our cars. the stage two is going to add about 25 horses. it includes a smaller diameter pulley, gm performance cold air intake, and an ecu reflash. hes not sure if anything else is going to be included. you are going to be able to retain your warranty, but it will lower the warranty time. he wasnt sure about how much though. he also said that there will be a stage two that will produce about 275whp with the help of new injectors and many more goodies. also he said that some people he know have taken the air conditioner unit out and he saw a gain of 25 HORSES!!! just thought i would share. if any of my information is wrong, feel free to correct me.
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds sweet, although i didn't think they could shorten the warranty more than it is
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the warranty is only as good as your skills of yelling at managers to make them do the work. And stage 2 needs to get here in a big hurry 275whp and if thats not including exhaust some of us have that covered. Man do the math almost 300 ponies to the rubber.
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Old 01-22-2005, 11:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the warranty is only as good as your skills of yelling at managers to make them do the work. And stage 2 needs to get here in a big hurry 275whp and if thats not including exhaust some of us have that covered. Man do the math almost 300 ponies to the rubber.
I don't understand. Some of us have what? 275 whp? If so, who? Or do you mean some of us have exhaust? I don't think anyone will have 275 even with headers. I'm guessing with I/H/E we will be at 255.
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Old 01-23-2005, 08:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't know if any of you have read the articals on the Colbalt and the Ion out on the Salt Flats with the turbocharge 2.0 ecotec. But alot of you are talking about replace your exhaust. This stock exhaust is good to like 400Hp. Why spend the 800 to 1500 on a exhaust to get 1 or 2hp is it real worth it. I would just replace the muffler. Everything else is High Flow and does seem to me that it would be worth the cost, till I get to that 400hp mark. After talking with Racing Innovations they seem to agree with me on this, just replace the stock muffler. Anyways what do you guys think? Am I right or wrong on this?
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I only spent like 260 bucks for my 3inch exhaust with a 3 inch magnaflow. Id rather have that than stock... Just me tho.
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This needs to come out faster.
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't know if any of you have read the articals on the Colbalt and the Ion out on the Salt Flats with the turbocharge 2.0 ecotec. But alot of you are talking about replace your exhaust. This stock exhaust is good to like 400Hp. Why spend the 800 to 1500 on a exhaust to get 1 or 2hp is it real worth it. I would just replace the muffler. Everything else is High Flow and does seem to me that it would be worth the cost, till I get to that 400hp mark. After talking with Racing Innovations they seem to agree with me on this, just replace the stock muffler. Anyways what do you guys think? Am I right or wrong on this?

All I got was a magnaflow muffler and had the last piece of pipe to the muffler upsized to 2.5" pipe (for some reason that is the only section that is downsized to 2.25") and it cost me $148. That's all I plan on doing to the exhaust besides the SCdyne header.


Anyone have any speculation as far as the cost of the stage 2 upgrade?
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I don't think the stock exhaust is all that bad. If there is one that comes out that proves big gains, I may upgrade. Swapping the muffler would be a good idea for different looks and sound. I will get a header of some kind for sure though. I really hope the factory stage 1 and 2 upgrades are not rumors, those need to happen.
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