Spooner,Wop Someone Help Me!!!

[04RedLine04]

Sorry I have made so many threads about my clutch but I need u guys to help me out here. Its a long story so here it goes. My car has had tranny issues for a while now the first time it had a problem I took it in they gave me a new tranny and I went on from there. Approx 2 month after my new tranny was in it got mest up it would not go into any gear at all it was like if no tranny was attached to the motor the thing would slip into the gear slot but it was like nothing was there (kinda hard to explain) after this I got picked up by saturn roadside assistance because the car would not move. They towed it a saturn dealear. I called the morning after and they were like "ohh for sure it's ur link cables "and to not make this story to long It was not they ended up telling me that my clutch and flywheel were bad and I said ok im going to look arouund for a better clutch and flywheel and they were cool about it .My new clutch,flywheel and tranny went in approx 1month after the problem I got my car back and the first day I rode it ,it felt like shit when I would decellerate in gear it would do a nasty ass grinding sound and the clutch was hard and I had to be step on the pedal all the way in but I mean all the way in to shift gears took it back the next day and I get a notice that there was a bulletin on the transmission and it needed to be repaired so another month approx and my car is now back to me in the following codition.The clutch is a lil softer but when I step on the car a bit it will not shift at all its very very hard to shift into gears even sometimes at low rpms I basically drive it better with out pressing the clutch if u know what I mean.The grinding noice got alot better but still a bit noticable and last thing that I notice today was that even with my foot in the clutch pedal all the way down if I step on it to rev the car while my foot is on the clutch the car will move up like the clutch is sticking. Please guys give me some suggestion on what i can buy Im not very good with all this clutch crap but I have heard that if the clutch is to strong the stock clutch pedal crap cant push it enough.Help me out with anything If u can teach me how a clutch works please do, tommorow im going to the dealear to speak with them and I want to go with some knowledge of what the hell can be happing

aftermarket clutch was a clutch master stg 3 and a fidaza flywheel

Pic 2 is something that I dunno what it is but it came with my clutch kit(help me out on what it is ) and never got installed and the rest of the pictures are my Stock clutch pressure plate & flywheel tell me if u think it was bad. my brother is a master mechanic and I asked him if it was bad and he told me no but I dont get along with him to much so Im not sure



Thanks u guys for ur help sorry for the grammar errors and for this being so long Thanks again

[SWCRedline]

I had a little trouble following your thread.. some punctuation would help. Not 100% sure but what you are describing sounds like a bad clutch slave cylinder or something else in the clutch hydraulics that is not allowing the clutch disc to fully disengage from the flywheel. Your pictures show a flywheel that has been overheated (blueing of the friction surface) and the pressure plate looks like it has alot of disk material burned onto it. Either it was severely abused or bad hydraulics were causing it to slip. One possibility is the system was opened and not bled properly. Which pieces in picture 2 were not installed? The top piece is the clutch alignment tool that lines the disc up between the flywheel and pressure plate and is removed once the plate is bolted down. The bottom green piece looks like the concentric slave cylinder (not positive as I haven't been inside a Redline Bell Housing) I'm not sure why the shop would not have installed that but if they didn't and your original slave cylinder was bad.... there's your problem. Unfortunately you have probably already done damage to you new clutch and flywheel.

[04RedLine04]

Thanks alot .. I was thinking somewhere in that area also but thank u very much

[sheek360]

damn that sux, i told a guy your clutch symptoms. he has an aftermarket stage 3 like u and tells me that pedal pressure is the same! If i ever need to get a clutch installed, or get any tranny work Im going to a damn saab dealer. I dont care if I have to pay for it.

[04RedLine04]

it feels the same as what my problem or the same as the stock clutch

[04RedLine04]

Call me up when u have a chance I am awake

[Sp00ner]

Please note the type of clutch he had folks...

Clutchmasters... wouldn't that be the issue right there... that first batch of 'em were screwed, were they not?

Your brother said that cluch in the pics are NOT bad? That thing is mauled...

[SWCRedline]

One other possibility is they installed the clutch disc backwards.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by SWCRedline

One other possibility is they installed the clutch disc backwards.

i doubt it im having the same trouble and the thing that 04redline04 and myself have in common is that we both have the CM clitch kit.

[04RedLine04]

Is there any clutch out there that actually works on out cars