TSB #'s and Recall #'s

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by Sp00ner

#04-08-45-005B - (Nov 16, 2005)
No Crank or No Start, DTC B2960 and/or B3033 Set (Replace Body Control Module (BCM) and Ignition Switch, If Necessary)

No Crank or No Start, DTC B2960 and/or B3033 Set (Replace Body Control Module [BCM] and Ignition Switch, If Necessary)
2003-2006 Saturn ION

Built Up To and Including VIN Breakpoint 6Z147837

Please make notte that this is a BULLETIN not a recall, so to qualify for the recommended repair the vehicle must have experienced the NO START (as many here have reported) AND have either of those 2 DTCS stored in the BCM

so what happens if you already have the stage reflash and you have to take your car back for a pcm reflash due to one of these tsb's? does your car automatically get reflasshed with the stage reflash?

[WopOnTour]

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

so what happens if you already have the stage reflash and you have to take your car back for a pcm reflash due to one of these tsb's? does your car automatically get reflasshed with the stage reflash?

For these particular bulletins- there is really no reason to reflash the PCM so you should be good. EVENTUALLY your VIN will be automatically recognized as having the Stage calibration but I have yet to be able to confirm this has taken place. In the meantime there already has been people that have had their stage flash overwritten at the dealer so it would be a good idea to let them know when you take it in so that doesnt happen. Immediately after you pick up check your 7000 rev limit.
Wop

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by WopOnTour

For these particular bulletins- there is really no reason to reflash the PCM so you should be good. EVENTUALLY your VIN will be automatically recognized as having the Stage calibration but I have yet to be able to confirm this has taken place. In the meantime there already has been people that have had their stage flash overwritten at the dealer so it would be a good idea to let them know when you take it in so that doesnt happen. Immediately after you pick up check your 7000 rev limit.
Wop

So Wop what you're condoning is for everyone to redline their engines every time they have service?!?!

jk!

[WopOnTour]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

So Wop what you're condoning is for everyone to redline their engines every time they have service?!?!

jk!

Yea, I know
But I've yet to figure out another easy way for people to know their Stage calibration is THERE
and besides this guy LIKES to rev
Wop

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by WopOnTour

Yea, I know
But I've yet to figure out another easy way for people to know their Stage calibration is THERE
and besides this guy LIKES to rev
Wop

lol i'm waiting for the asshole tech that tries to bitch at someone that says along those lines

'why doesn't my engine rev to 7k anymore?'
'why are you redlining your engine, i'm not doing warranty work on your car'

it'll happen eventually i'm sure :P

[mailmars]

Originally Posted by WopOnTour

Yea, I know
But I've yet to figure out another easy way for people to know their Stage calibration is THERE
and besides this guy LIKES to rev
Wop

Also most reasonable scanners will give you the VIN and the Calibration ID, Ease Diagnostics, Auto Tap etc....... I am not so sure of the generic that AutoZone uses...


Mark

[WopOnTour]

Originally Posted by mailmars

Also most reasonable scanners will give you the VIN and the Calibration ID, Ease Diagnostics, Auto Tap etc....... I am not so sure of the generic that AutoZone uses...


Mark

Yea but how is the average Joe supposed to know what cal id they should observe? For instance what is it the correct numbers you should see for a 2006 Redline with and without the Stage kit? Having access to the calibration details is one thing, but being able to asess the cal id against anything solid is another.
Most of the "Autozone" type code readers dont even do cal id

Easiest still IMO... rev to 7K

Freak's just a worry wart... LOL j/k
Wop

[mailmars]

Originally Posted by WopOnTour

Yea but how is the average Joe supposed to know what cal id they should observe? For instance what is it the correct numbers you should see for a 2006 Redline with and without the Stage kit? Having access to the calibration details is one thing, but being able to asess the cal id against anything solid is another.
Most of the "Autozone" type code readers dont even do cal id

Easiest still IMO... rev to 7K

Freak's just a worry wart... LOL j/k
Wop

Just another alternative... The first thing I did when I left the dealer and hit the freeway was run it up to 7K but hey.. And the correct cal numbers for the stage kits are in the instructions. Oh BTW... The GM website now shows then stage cal for my car... Only took a couple of months...

Mark

[WopOnTour]

Originally Posted by mailmars

Just another alternative... The first thing I did when I left the dealer and hit the freeway was run it up to 7K but hey.. And the correct cal numbers for the stage kits are in the instructions. Oh BTW... The GM website now shows then stage cal for my car... Only took a couple of months...

Mark

AFAIK those numbers on the procedure are not what shows in cal id with a scan tool
What numbers show up on the Cal ID website for your car??
WOT

[mailmars]

Originally Posted by WopOnTour

AFAIK those numbers on the procedure are not what shows in cal id with a scan tool
What numbers show up on the Cal ID website for your car??
WOT

Tis2web is showing 12607647 as the PN and that is also the Cal Id that Ease Diagnostics GM extended and OBDII Generic is showing and page 8 of 24 in the stage instructions are showing 12607647....

Mark