A lot of carbon??????

[rlinbatonrouge]

Originally Posted by Vita

they're liable for something like 100,000 miles. nothing after the cat could be blamed on its failure.

8 yrs/80,000 miles. Same with the PCM. Federal law

[Boosted_Ion]

Originally Posted by pclear9061

do you sit in there too

Hell no! It's cold in my garage in the morning! (Well, it has been lately... 30-40ish in the morning.)

[MR.280ZX]

Black soot on the exhaust tip means your running rich.

[dipolley]

I asked about this last time I was at the dealer. The tech said it is an issue with ALL Ions. Not just the redlines. He said his Ion 3 does the same thing as well as every other Ion that comes in. Know flaw in the design. Nothing can or needs to be done. Unless you are not passing your emissions test (for those who have them) then do not worry about it.

[XeroState]

Really? Than that means all 4 of our vehicles are running rich (no black crap on the ground though), allbeit 2 are IONS, the others are a SC2 and a malibu

[Boosted_Ion]

Originally Posted by XeroState

Really? Than that means all 4 of our vehicles are running rich (no black crap on the ground though), allbeit 2 are IONS, the others are a SC2 and a malibu

Hmmmmm... I might want to take a look at my SC2 then.

[pclear9061]

Originally Posted by Boosted_Ion

Hell no! It's cold in my garage in the morning! (Well, it has been lately... 30-40ish in the morning.)

when i wake up in the morning its ~ 45*F INSIDE the house *burrrrr* and we are too cheap to run the heater allllll night.

[Boosted_Ion]

Originally Posted by pclear9061

when i wake up in the morning its ~ 45*F INSIDE the house *burrrrr* and we are too cheap to run the heater allllll night.

We're the same way. We have a programable thermostat that lets the temp drop to 60 at night.

[pclear9061]

well we have single payne (sp) windows and about 1/2 of the windows (1800 sqft house 7 (total) room house) have parts that are missing and let the cold air in. stupid fixer upers ohh well at least the owner (since we are renting) is gonna pay for fixing some windows ........... now i gotta see if she will by dual payne (sp) windows all the way around so itll save us hell money and keep it warm

[crazybrew609]

your not always gunna get carbon on the ground if the muffler is black.... my tip and bottom of my muffler are black from carbon but what i found surprisng is where my cat meets the cat-back pipe.. i have a huge carbon deposit their as well.. this is from the pipes expanding and contracting due to heat change and a little will leak out... no big deal it's normal for our cars which seem to completely eat gas.. mabey the new kits will help us lean out the car