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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-19-2017, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
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Clutch peddle help

I apologize ahead of time as I am sending this from my mechanic to you guys. But he is stuck and I miss my car
I recently had him replace the clutch I'm my car ( gmpp and **** flywheel of it makes a difference) everything seems like it went fine. But he can't get the clutch peddle to disengage . It seems that he can't push it down far enough.
Any ideas on what's going on ask any questions I will be giving my mechanic a link to this post so I can get a more direct communication between you guys and him
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Have him make sure that the rod from the master cylinder is in the back of the pedal.

Did he vacuum bleed the clutch from the master cylinder? It takes a while, but it does work.

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The master cylinder rod does not meet the hole in clutch paddle. In fact, when the white retainer clip is removed you notice part of the plunger seat is broken. When you push on the paddle the seat and the master cylinder don't meet till about half way done. I bled the clutch system from the reservoir. By vacuuming the reservoir to 25hg (only because the mightyvac didn't want to go any higher) holding for 2 mins. Then pressing the clutch paddle half dozen times. I did that about 7 times with at 20min break in the middle.
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The master cylinder rod does not meet the hole in clutch paddle. In fact, when the white retainer clip is removed you notice part of the plunger seat is broken. When you push on the paddle the seat and the master cylinder don't meet till about half way done. I bled the clutch system from the reservoir. By vacuuming the reservoir to 25hg (only because the mightyvac didn't want to go any higher) holding for 2 mins. Then pressing the clutch paddle half dozen times. I did that about 7 times with at 20min break in the middle.
Sounds like he may need either a new master cylinder, pedal, or both.

Is the master cylinder rod bent at all?

You're bleeding it correctly, it just takes time. When you reinstalled the clutch elbow ( connects the line from the master cylinder to the throwout bearing ), did you make sure all the seals were in place and not doubled up? That is a common issue on these cars.

Keep at the vacuum bleeding. It took me about 20 cycles to get it right, but it does eventually go.
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Have him make sure that the rod from the master cylinder is in the back of the pedal.

Did he vacuum bleed the clutch from the master cylinder? It takes a while, but it does work.
no he bench bleed it
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The master cylinder rod does not meet the hole in clutch paddle. In fact, when the white retainer clip is removed you notice part of the plunger seat is broken. When you push on the paddle the seat and the master cylinder don't meet till about half way done. I bled the clutch system from the reservoir. By vacuuming the reservoir to 25hg (only because the mightyvac didn't want to go any higher) holding for 2 mins. Then pressing the clutch paddle half dozen times. I did that about 7 times with at 20min break in the middle.
Sounds like he may need either a new master cylinder, pedal, or both.

Is the master cylinder rod bent at all?

You're bleeding it correctly, it just takes time. When you reinstalled the clutch elbow ( connects the line from the master cylinder to the throwout bearing ), did you make sure all the seals were in place and not doubled up? That is a common issue on these cars.

Keep at the vacuum bleeding. It took me about 20 cycles to get it right, but it does eventually go.
Master cylinder was recently replaced ( previous owner) was all chewed up at the ball part
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The master cylinder plunger is not bent
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The master cylinder plunger is not bent
I will double check but I fairly sure its not
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for posterity I'm adding after how ever long we finally found it was in fact a bad master cylinder
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