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Old 04-03-2006, 07:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help WOT or Blu

I got this code coming home from school today

P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich ECM, PCM
cleared with the interceptor then this code the second i cleared the old one
P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean ECM, PCM

Car idles rough and shifts like crap, ecu is being reset now, any other suggestions. No changes in anything. Happened while i was in traffic jam blasting my Dave Matthews CD and then the idle went harsh and the code popped up.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Dave Matthews" problem identified lol j/k
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got this code coming home from school today

P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich ECM, PCM
cleared with the interceptor then this code the second i cleared the old one
P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean ECM, PCM

Car idles rough and shifts like crap, ecu is being reset now, any other suggestions. No changes in anything. Happened while i was in traffic jam blasting my Dave Matthews CD and then the idle went harsh and the code popped up.
Check you boost line from the manifold to whatever... I know you run with the boost mod most of the time. Make sure there's no leaks in there...
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Turns out the green lock to hold the pins in on C3 is broken. Dont know if this is what the problem is or not but im gonna keep looking until I here something from WOT. I did a run after I fixed C3 and i only got 14.1psi with 1.4 knock, so I know something is up.

obtw before I took C3 off to fix it my knock level went to 25.3 then to 10 and this car wont idle at all now and stalls when i dont give it gas. I know its something stupid cause this, my baby needs my help so I'm troubleshooting everything.
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Turns out the green lock to hold the pins in on C3 is broken. Dont know if this is what the problem is or not but im gonna keep looking until I here something from WOT. I did a run after I fixed C3 and i only got 14.1psi with 1.4 knock, so I know something is up.

obtw before I took C3 off to fix it my knock level went to 25.3 then to 10 and this car wont idle at all now and stalls when i dont give it gas. I know its something stupid cause this, my baby needs my help so I'm troubleshooting everything.
Make sure you dont have any bent pins on the PCM itself
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm sure there's a Saturn fix somewhere that involves Duct Tape
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Old 04-03-2006, 11:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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WOT that is the part that is broken however the 2 long ends are still in the connector just the top is broken off (piece that holds the 2 long ends together)
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WOT that is the part that is broken however the 2 long ends are still in the connector just the top is broken off (piece that holds the 2 long ends together)
My C1 connector is like that. Ah the beauty of the ladder tach install. Actually all the wires pulley out of my C1 and me and my brother had to sit there and put them back one by one. It was a bitch.
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WOT that is the part that is broken however the 2 long ends are still in the connector just the top is broken off (piece that holds the 2 long ends together)
THat should be OK, once it's inserted into the PCM cavity it should keep it from coming loose.I'll see if I can find you another one or at least a PN#
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