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Old 12-11-2012, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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5x114.3 conversion

I have seen how some people have converted to a 5x114.3 on their spindles but I haven't been able to locate how they did it. I prefer to not redril mine but I am not completely opposed to it. I just need to know where to go to.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have seen how some people have converted to a 5x114.3 on their spindles but I haven't been able to locate how they did it. I prefer to not redril mine but I am not completely opposed to it. I just need to know where to go to.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Part # or years? Direct bolt on?

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Or re-drill.

This guy has LNF hubs that are pre-drilled, not sure on direct bolt on application. Probably best to ask Qwik.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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LNF hubs are not compatable with older ABS systems, but mechanically would work if you also swapped out knuckles and axles.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Do the grand am hubs fit in our steering knuckle or do you need to swap those out too?
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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no they do not fit and unless you get lnf, or g6 , or gmpp upgrade knuckles, there is insufficient meat in the stock lsj knuckle to enlarge it to fit the grand am bearing. Reverse engineering this wont work. The grand am hub reads abs fine but it takes a larger output spline axle cv bell and that means a special shaft( I had mine made for the race cars at considerable expense out of 300m steel) or install an LNF axle (direct bolt on)

redrilling a new pcd is possible in the stock bearings, but can be difficult and certainly not a 'drill a few holes with my black and decker' job.

The rear bearing needs to be faced on the back side otherwise the stud ends wont fit straight on the hub itself when re drilled.

do it right or not at all.... its a great conversion which then allows you choices of all sorts of really good wheels available in 5 x 114.3 ( 4.5 pcd) which is a Mustang pcd by the way.

but cost is a factor. The folks on here are the second, third or fourth owners these days and who has money to spend up to 2000 dollars on the conversion, new wheels and new tires for a car that cost 3-5000 dollars in the first place?

ebristol, shab, myself etc, these guys are rare, spending thousands of dollars on a 9 year old car not made anymore...
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Basically what I thought after talking to my dad. He knows a guy that will re drill all of them for 100 for "him". Apparently, he works at a machine shop that does this often.

Then my cost will be new rubbers and wheels Then she will have a new stance

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And original owner ftw!

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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here is what I did, I went to the junkyard and got malibu knuckles, $50 each, impala hubs on ebay $45 each, outer impala cv's $60 each. axle shop axles and tripod bearings $300 for the axles and inner bearings(they are for the first ariel atom), mix thourghly and u have your bolt pattern with axle that can take over 400 hp. Machine work was limited to taking some material off the bottom to fit the stock lower ball joint and sanding the knuckle on the inside to fit the larger inpala hub, and redrilling the holes to bolt the hub to the knucles. I have had this set up on my car for 4 years now and not 1 broken axle! the rears I drilled out using a pattern I made, the rears can be tricky. Oops, I forgot, you use impala rotors in the front also. The wheels are rota 17x9 5x114.3 with 255/40 tires
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