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post #41 of 43 (permalink) Old 08-19-2008, 04:58 PM
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Living in Colorado, I completely understand your concerns about lowering the car.

I don't know about the BWoody sway bar end links other than reading about them -- I don't really think you'll feel much difference between the stock links and the BWoodys -- but they won't hurt anything. Although I haven't installed my subframe connectors, I believe they'll substantially stiffen the car tortionally, which, in turn, should let the suspension work better.

I have a strut brace installed (there was no discernable improvement with just the strut brace) and I have a Progress rear sway -- which produces a dramatic difference in handling -- the car is much flatter and there really is an improvement in reducing front wheel spin (and I have the Quaife).

I don't drag race this car, but I don't doubt that the torque brace will help keep the engine torque throw under control -- which is a good thing. If I'm spinning my tires when I start, I'm wasting time, so I use throttle control and minimize tire spin (remember, however, I'm running Hoosier 225/40 x 17 A6 autocross slicks -- all the tire spin does is reduce tire-life -- @$230/tire, I don't need to wear them any faster).

The front subframe brace from RebelAutoWorxs (first time I've seen this) would probably be very good -- but I doubt that you'd be able to point to it as a single item of value. I think, however, that adding it to a vehicle that has everything else and is already near the edge of the performance/handling envelope would be quite valuable. I plan to inquire about the Redline fit with RebelAutoWorxs -- $130 CDN isn't too expensive.

About tires: I don't run street rubber on the track. You can do it but you'll always be limited. If you're going to compete with street rubber, look for something like the Azenis 615s -- but don't expect much tire wear.

Since you're in snow country, if the snow isn't too deep, I've had great success with the ContiContac Extreme all weather tires -- they're good in the rain, relatively good on ice or packed snow and work pretty well in deeper snow and relatively cheap -- they're definitely NOT autocross tires.

Since we have deep snow in Colorado and I've been known to take the Redline up to the ski areas (I have a ski rack), I have a set of Pirelli Winter Carving, studded snow radials, on 16" wheels for REAL snow conditions. I didn't use them at all last year, but they'er on the shelf in the garage.

So I guess all this tells you that I have multiple sets of wheels/tires for the Redline, 17 x 7.5" with Hoosiers, 17 x 7" with Contis, 16 x 7" with Pirelli snows, and I have the forged (dark grey) Redline wheels on my wifes grey Saturn Aura (I'm not impressed with the factory wheels on an autocross track). I plan to get a set of 18 x 8.5" rims early next year so I can stuff 265/275/285 - 35/30 x 18 slicks on the car to be nationally competitive. Assuming this works, I'll probably put some Hoosier rains on the 17 x 7.5" rims...

Yes, the car will oversteer in high-speed turns or under heavy braking in a turn, but better oversteer than understeer. You can plan for and compensate for oversteer much easier than understeer and you'll be faster. Rule #1, don't brake while turning, it works on a road race course because of the speeds, the turns, the tires, and the setup of a road-race car, it doesn't work well on the much tighter autocross track with a car with an autocross setup -- they aren't the same!

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From what i've heard from several posts, the strut brace won't really do much, and it will probably be something i do when i don't have anything else to spend money on. the rebel subframe brace i have heard really good things about, as well as the sway bar endlinks (ever seen ours next to a set??) This car is a daily driver so I will be using it mostly for commuting to work, i just want a lil more handling out of it (now that I'm satisfied with the power output)

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From what i've heard from several posts, the strut brace won't really do much, and it will probably be something i do when i don't have anything else to spend money on. the rebel subframe brace i have heard really good things about, as well as the sway bar endlinks (ever seen ours next to a set??) This car is a daily driver so I will be using it mostly for commuting to work, i just want a lil more handling out of it (now that I'm satisfied with the power output)
you dont have springs? dont buy a strut brace get some proline eibachs...and a decent rear bar...and urace car connectors, and ditch the front drag link or whatver u htink it is...you dont have drop links yet? powergridinc.com the very best....imho
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you dont have springs? dont buy a strut brace get some proline eibachs...and a decent rear bar...and urace car connectors, and ditch the front drag link or whatver u htink it is...you dont have drop links yet? powergridinc.com the very best....imho


That's the thing, though, i don't want springs because i don't really want to lower the car at all.

drop links? same as sway bar end links? urace frame connectors are a definite buy, as well as the engine cradle subframe brace. turbo tech racing rear bar looks good too. that will help me handle probably better than just springs
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