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Post your Auto-x setups, and discuss!

Okay, here's the "general Ion autocrossing" thread.

Currently, because I wanted to buy Kuhmos desparately (but wound up not having enough money for wheels too) I'm stuck with the General Exclaim UHP all-seasons. And since my only mods are a rear strut bar and poly motor mounts, I ran in STX.

I just came back from an event Saturday, and I had a blast. I'm friends with the DS guys, too... I was up against a well-prepped Civic Si with sticky tires, a Cooper S turbo (noob driver), and a few others. My nemesis in DS drives a BMW 330ci with sticky tires, and he handily beat me by a couple of seconds... but not as badly as last time. The civic got me by around 3 seconds... almost everybody else in DS or STX (and some in SM) was behind me.

I'll have wait till results are posted to be sure, but for driving a 99% stock car with all-seasons, I did really well. My next purchase for the car might as well be really nice tires, cause the UHP's ain't gonna hold up for long under that kind of abuse. Maybe if I run across a few hundred extra bucks, I can finally get the wheels and tires and run in DSP... but the only main advantage of that over STX is injectors, subframe braces, and intercooler upgrades. However, my car (stock) is capable of smoking the tires on takeoff, and the ABS goes nuts when I stand on the brakes... the UHP's obviously aren't up to the task. They're the weak link... nothing else will really help until I get that fixed.

Someone brought up an interesting point about using the stage 1/2 flash and adjusting the injector constant to keep the stock 32# injectors... has anybody tried this? I'm willing to give it a shot, it should be a straightforward process. Just copy the injector constant from the stock tune, and paste it into the Stage 2 one?

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ive got a stage 2 with 2.8 pulley,rear sway bar,front strut bar and a cobra h/e.im running on my street goodyear f1's whice are awesome for my level[ive been running novice],apparently i will be entering the race with the 'big boys' next time out. serious research revealed that i will be running SM[STREET MODIFIED], because of my tune/pulley size. thats the same class as the sti and the evo from what i can tell. im not planning on being super competitive in the class but will certainly aim to get faster/better!..colm.
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ive had kumhos and i know several people that have or had there tires and i have nothing good to say about them.

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ive got a stage 2 with 2.8 pulley,rear sway bar,front strut bar and a cobra h/e.im running on my street goodyear f1's whice are awesome for my level[ive been running novice],apparently i will be entering the race with the 'big boys' next time out. serious research revealed that i will be running SM[STREET MODIFIED], because of my tune/pulley size. thats the same class as the sti and the evo from what i can tell. im not planning on being super competitive in the class but will certainly aim to get faster/better!..colm.
Yeah, the pulley bumps you out of Street Prepared and Street Touring... but you've got street tires, so Street Mod is where you're at.

Depends on who shows up how well you do. Street mod can be a nasty class, because anything goes as long as it's street legal and runs on street tires... you'll get everything from stock gutted cars to full-blown engine-swapped monsters.

And as far as kuhmos, anything is better than what I've got now...

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And as far as kuhmos, anything is better than what I've got now...
Actually, the UHP's are one of the highest rated tires out there in the stock size, for all seasons.

Having used the Kumhos myself, and having multiple customers' cars using the UHP's, I think the UHP's are MUCH better.

Ok, so, like, yeah, umm....
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Actually, the UHP's are one of the highest rated tires out there in the stock size, for all seasons.

Having used the Kumhos myself, and having multiple customers' cars using the UHP's, I think the UHP's are MUCH better.
They're some of the best all-seasons I've ever driven on, and they cost half as much as the nearest competitor. Trust me, if I weren't racing on them, I'd have no complaints. But when everybody else in your class is running barely road legal sticky tires, it's not a fair fight. When I say I need new tires, I'm talking specifically for autocrossing. I'll probably get another set of UHP's for daily driving, they're that good.

I could possibly get another set of UHP's in a much wider size, but if I were going to do that, I'd just as soon get stickier ones to start with.

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Yeah, the pulley bumps you out of Street Prepared and Street Touring... but you've got street tires, so Street Mod is where you're at.

Depends on who shows up how well you do. Street mod can be a nasty class, because anything goes as long as it's street legal and runs on street tires... you'll get everything from stock gutted cars to full-blown engine-swapped monsters.

And as far as kuhmos, anything is better than what I've got now...
saturn42 has some used khumos....good price; but Hoosier A6 nothing else is better....run option b just the remote reservoir and the bleed line if you dont have the dough that cooling mod will really help you keep what power you have which is about 210 at the wheels - GM were conservative in their HP ratings and HOnda and Toyota were optimistic (lied)
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Actually, the UHP's are one of the highest rated tires out there in the stock size, for all seasons.

Having used the Kumhos myself, and having multiple customers' cars using the UHP's, I think the UHP's are MUCH better.
hmm gotta get those mounts finishe tomorrow lol they really rock ran in the rain today no problemo
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oops i forgot to mention my most recent mod in my earlier post...its a zzp header/downpipe with 2.5 inch pipes all the way back with twin resonators/borla muffler...it reduced my low end torque quite a bit and makes it better for the track!...also gave me a lot more midrange for the interstate...probably need a custom tune but who can afford one these days??..colm.
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