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but...if you have a dedicated track set of pads and rotors, MAKE SURE to bed them in BEFORE your first track day. nothing like buying wicked brakes that should stop you and you go off the end of the track in turn 1 because they don't grab yet.


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Another question begging for input...

225/45's or 235/40's for 17" stockers? Leaning toward 235's

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for best handling, all else being equal 235/40

for better handling (than stock) and slightly worse acceleration but better ride comfort, 225/45 your odometer and speedometer will also read slightly slow, all else being equal.

a regular simple tire machine will not be able to mount 235/40 onto the stock rim.


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A regular tire machine will mount the 235/40 on the stock rim just fine. I've been through 6 sets in that size, lol. They do fit BETTER on 7.5 or 8 inch wide rims.

Another tip - Nankang Sport NS-1's from discounttiredirect.com via eBay are $236 or so (fluctuates a couple bucks) FOR A SET OF 4 in 235/40/17 - INCLUDING SHIPPING!! H-rated, so keep it under 130 (lol), and not the stickiest ever - but they do handle pretty darn well, and shit - they cost what other tires cost for 1 or 2 for all fucking 4! I've been through 4 sets already. -2.5* camber in front will do that, lol. I have them mounted on 7.5" wide rims, but they will go on the stockers okay.


BEST option - get 8" wide rims and run 245/40/17. Note that Hoosier and BFG R-comps run REALLY wide and measure closer to a 265 in a "street" tire, lol - but I have had 245/40/17 Hoosier R6's and BFG R1's crammed onto the stock rims for 3 years now without issue (other than the tire guy cussing me out when they have to mount them, LMAO) for autocross. I would NOT recommend running a 245/40 on the stock rim for the street, however.

So to review - get some 225/45/17 R-comps on the stock rims for autocross and track days, pick up some inexpensive 7.5" or 8" wide rims for the street and run 235/40 or 245/40 17 on the street. Or, squish the 235/40 onto the stock rims for the street and get some 235 or 245 40/17 rubber on 8" wide rims for tracking.


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the regular tire machine at work will not mount the 235/40 eagle f1s on my stock rims ymmv, of course.


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I ordered some 225/45/17 Dunlop Direzza D1's for my car. We'll see how they do since the car will be daily driven in the summer and drag raced/auto x'd in on the weekends. I am hopeful it's a tire that will be good for regular driving and sticky enough to do okay on the weekends.
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I ordered some 225/45/17 Dunlop Direzza D1's for my car. We'll see how they do since the car will be daily driven in the summer and drag raced/auto x'd in on the weekends. I am hopeful it's a tire that will be good for regular driving and sticky enough to do okay on the weekends.
i'm sure you'll be very happy with that setup.


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Star Spec or regular Direzza's? The non-Star Spec will tolerate auto-x, but won't like it.

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oh, crap, good catch, BB.

Z1 star specs are good. direzza dz101s are not as good.


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Our cars LOVE the Star Specs and they love our cars. They're the ST tire of choice for heavier vehicles - lighter cars do better on XS or RS3's, the Toyos too but they hate heat.

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