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post #41 of 146 (permalink) Old 03-16-2011, 03:25 AM
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There are a whole bunch of Eagle F1 GS-D3's in that size floating around. I went through 2 sets before I started on the Nangkangs.

They are NOS (New Old Stock) that's being cleared out, and there are still a bunch out there. Just make sure they're in good shape when the arrive, as some of the build dates go back as far as 2005. $250 is a little optimistic, $350 or so for a set of 4 seems to be the going rate right now. That's a steal, they're great tires - especially in the wet, arguably the best true performance tire ever made for hydroplaning resistance.

They aren't so good in corners, strangely enough. The sidewalls on the F1's are really soft, and when cornering at speed they will flex BADLY. You can feel it start to "hop" on the sidewall, very unsettling. This is why I stopped buying them - in Vegas, I need the wet performance like I need a cavity search - never. I ride the hell out of ramps at night, so the sidewalls DO matter, lol.

Plus, with my alignment I go through s set of 280 treadwear tires in about 6k miles, lol, so the cheap Nankangs - which corner harder than the F1's oddly enough, maybe not as much raw grip but MUCH more confidence inspiring to their limit, are my choice because frankly $236 shipped for 4 tires means $1,000 a year on street rubber instead of $1,400 to $2,400. Which means I can afford R-comps for auto-x and track days.

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$250 is a little optimistic, $350 or so for a set of 4 seems to be the going rate right now.

FYI, $248 plus $55 shipping
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$89 shipped all thee way to me, but still - good deal! If the extra $100 for the set doesn't matter to you and you need the wet performance (most people not in the middle of the fucking Mojeve Desert will, lol) I would highly recommend them. Unless you take freeway ramps at triple digit speeds late at night, in which case I would say STAY AWAY, lol.

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^^^ then you just need to get 19" rims with a rubber band on them like all4glh so there's no sidewall to roll over lol


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Much easier and cheaper just to get tires that actually corner. That solution kinda defeats the point of finding inexpensive rubber, wouldn't you say?

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sigh... i suppose your right. i might have to get me a set of those eagles.
can you seriously take onramps over 100 with those nangkangs???


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I plead the 5th.

Let's just say... Umm... There's a turn at one of the two local racetracks that is a PERFECT replica of a certain log sweeping interchange ramp like the one from the 215 eastbound to the 95 north in Henderson, a ramp marked "45 MPH". At the racetrack, you know, when I go on my street tires, I enter that particular turn at somewhere around 70-80 and if I apex it right - which I always do - I leave it between 110-115. Sure wish I could do that on the real ramp...

They aren't bad tires. Not super badass for sure, but a long way from suckage.

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i am willing to give up ultimate dry cornering grip for the improvement in wet cornering grip that those tires provide, especially at the price.

the f1s perform so closely between wet and dry that you really don't have to change your driving style.

obviously, as bb mentions, if it rains 1/4" in a year where you live, there's far better options out there for you.


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If they had a stiffer sidewall, I'd be all over them again, lol. Or if they were a less grippy compound that gave out just before the sidewalls started to give. But as they are, the grip surpasses the sidewall strength. In a situation like the one described above, the car starts to "wobble" on the sidewalls, and it is frankly a very disturbing - bordering on terrifying, lol - sensation at high speed. If you never push your car past 7 or MAYBE 8 10th's, they're fine.

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207 whp, 187 wtq, 100% stock uncorrected numbers on a mustang dyno...
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