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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
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So I'd like some feedback...

First off, rather than making an entirely separate thread for this in the Northeast board, I'll just combine both things in here.

Second, Saturn of West Liberty is a piece of crap lol, the guy was trying to sell me an 05 RL (granted fully decked out minus comp package and XM) for 22.5 with a 2.5k cash incentive. He didn't even have the car in the lot, didn't know a DAMN thing about the RL (for example he said that the cobalt didn't have anything even remotely similar to the RL, to which I quickly said, uhhhh there's the SS model which is almost the same car...). Thought it had a 2.2l engine, didn't know crap about it. Said that nowhere even HAVE 06 ones yet, then he had the balls to claim that they had the only 05 new model within 500 aerial miles. (WTF? ) (like that's a good thing if it's true... you're not even giving me a damn decreased price bastard).

Keep in mind with this story, I found out after that these cars are the SAME car, they're owned by the same dealership, yet I got drastically different numbers.

Alright then I went to the Saturn of Pleasant Hills (per the other Pittsburgher's suggestion), and this is where I have the question. This red RL is on the verge of being riced out, it's got a 141 demo miles on it or so, has the aerowing spoiler and the place's custom graphics package (looks surprisingly good to me). But the reason why I dare to say almost riced out is because with the way the car looks now, I will definitely be attracting cops attention.

But yea they BSed with me, then they said 'they're not allowed to do this (yea right)' but they offered me "better than the GM supplier discount" and gave me a number of about 19,5 for the car. I was like alright, that's SEMI decent, they straight out told me that they wanted to get rid of the car. So I still have negotiating room from there it seems. The only thing I forgot to ask was whether the 19,5 was with or without the 2,500 cash incentive. With, honestly I'm not considering it, I'll wait. WITHOUT though, would put the price of the car at 17k, and I could probably squeeze in the car care package and an extended warranty and walk out the door at 17.5-18.5k.

Whatdya think guys, hold out if it's without the cash incentive (going to call tomorrow to verify)? It does look hella nice, and the stripes ish could always come off. No LSD which is a kick in the pants for me, but ignoring that, I'd like to hear the reactions from some people, cause I know some of you guys got your cars for hella cheap.

Please respond this is probably the critical time for me to make a decision if I don't buy it now I'll be waiting probaly. the one other place I'm going to check is back in Monroeville, though I don't think they'll negotiate as much.....

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If there's no others in the area you may have found your best deal if you get it for 17.5. I wouldn't pay the 19.5 because desparation will get them lower closer to the end of the year which is how a lot of us got our '04s for under 17. I know my local stealership has an asload of '05s (including one red comp) with the '06s sitting in the back and will be begging to get the '05s off the lot soon. You could ask them to change the wing and take off the graphics and probably get more money off. I wouldn't worry too much about the extended warranty because you'll probably want to void it yourself anyway but the extra care thing is nice to have.
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If there's no others in the area you may have found your best deal if you get it for 17.5. I wouldn't pay the 19.5 because desparation will get them lower closer to the end of the year which is how a lot of us got our '04s for under 17. I know my local stealership has an asload of '05s (including one red comp) with the '06s sitting in the back and will be begging to get the '05s off the lot soon. You could ask them to change the wing and take off the graphics and probably get more money off. I wouldn't worry too much about the extended warranty because you'll probably want to void it yourself anyway but the extra care thing is nice to have.

lucky you I'm going to check out the other dealership and hope for something like that, but I'm not going to keep my hopes up...
The 17.5 would be hella nice i think if it was the final price? I'm debating waiting it out and see what I can see, maybe get them to drop it down some more. From what I heard they've had that car on the lot for like a year now and it's still not sold, so with the 06's about tobe rolling out, they're going to start getting a little desperate. I'm in no rush for that reason, if I can't get them to make me a decent deal now I can always wait a month and see if they still have it. If they still have it when the actual year 2006 comes around, they're going to probably start begging I would hope.

Oh and I'm hoping to get a REAL drive of the RL in soon, today was a little better, definitely felt the potential of the car, but wasn't able to USE it, and didn't have a SINGLE good turn in the drive...
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i bought mine for 17k fully loaded w/ sunroof a year ago..

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i bought mine for 17k fully loaded w/ sunroof a year ago..
I'm thinking the area might be part of it, or maybe somehow you're convincing these guys to stray a LOT off their prices.... this is fully loaded, sticker of just shy of 23k, getting him to do the 17k even WITH a newer model right behind it is going to be a stretch. Might be the location though, apparently these things are actually selling in the area (or they're BSing) i just haven't SEEN them....
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oh nm it was the 2004 a year ago, so it was an older model, but alright yea that's more or less what i'm hoping for now, 17.5-18 if i get car care and an extended warranty too.

and dl_rl was yours 17k out the door?
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19.5 is a damn good deal for a car that stickers at almost 23k... I'd take it. What's the finance rate? 0%?




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19.5 is a damn good deal for a car that stickers at almost 23k... I'd take it. What's the finance rate? 0%?

keep in mind that's stickering of 23k for a year older model, online quoting for a 2006 WITH comp package is 'stickering' at like 24k (including all BS fees). Basically they kept the 23k 'sticker price' from last year, but yea.

And the finance rate they gave the normal one they averaged 6.5% (no credit check), which is probably what I'd be getting (don't HAVE a credit history really, but what limited I do, it's good. I need to get another credit card or 2 :P).
Buuut instead of the low APR I'd probably take the cash incent of 2,500 (once again assuming it's not already associated in the price), because I'd probably only have a 3 year tops loan anyways.
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oh and the 'ironic' thing about it is that right now I'm torn between a bike and the RL. I was waiting for a good deal for either one. A bike just sorta fell on my lap (through ebay) that's a REALLY good deal, but at the same time the RL looks like it might be a good deal too, ahhhhhhhh decisions decisions.
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Well, that's part of the reason they're dropping the price 5k for you. If it was an '06, you'd be paying alot closer to sticker price.

Alot of the peeps that got '04s for cheap, got them this summer/spring. Not everyone of course. I got mine for a good deal, but I had previously met the finance guy there.




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