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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-01-2005, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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to install K&N or not install K&N, thats the question

So, My K&N arrived today. And I would like to install the psi-fi kit in the future when it becomes available. I have been reading the posts about codes being thrown and limp mode and so on. I was thinking, if the oil in the filter is the problem would cleaning it before installation and using less oil help any?
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-01-2005, 09:40 PM
 
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Yes...you are on the right track. A couple of the guys have cleaned the oil from the new filter, and then sprayed a very fine coat onto the filter. The purpose of the oil is to catch any dust that may make it through the filter. I talked to GM about this filter problem today, and was told that if you are going to the aftermarket CIA, you need to put a dry filter on it. All it takes to freak out the MAF is one speck of oil. Yes, it's that friggin sensative. The other thing I was told was to apply a small amount of sealant around all of the connections for the new system. This serves two purposes...one, it makes it a completely closed system, where nothing can get sucked in around the edge of the seals. Two, in sealing off any possible leaks, you now get better suction straight through the filter. I hope to have mine this week. Ordered it from Gravana about 10 days ago.
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I ordered mine from them too. It took a little time because I also ordered the B&M shifter. When I talked to them they said their ordering system holds orders if items are backorderd. So what dry filter is being used? cool thanks for the info on the sealant too.
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Yes, I would also like to know what dry filters we can use.
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I don't know what it will cross over to as far as filter numbers go. Just get some filter cleaner and spray the heck out of it. Spray if from the inside out first. It will remove almost all of the oil put into the filter by the factory. That will save you a buttload of money too....those filters are expensive as heck.
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I don't know what it will cross over to as far as filter numbers go. Just get some filter cleaner and spray the heck out of it. Spray if from the inside out first. It will remove almost all of the oil put into the filter by the factory. That will save you a buttload of money too....those filters are expensive as heck.

The oil is what stops the dirt from coming into your intake. If you take all the oil off without putting more on, you will get dust and dirt in your engine. No?
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You may pick up dust....true. Actual Dirt....I doubt it. The filters are pretty good. I ran a K&N on my Cart at the local dirt track. If I didn't oil the filter I usually picked up a fine dust, but keep in mind that's a lot of dust flying through the air. That dust will actually glaze the inside of the cylinder...not good. However, the oil stopped it dead in it's tracks. Now, on my Ion, I am actually going to try and clean mine, and only apply a fine mist of the oil on the outer side of the filter. Coming from the factory, it is oil impregnated....Huge difference.
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Well, I guess I will try to clean the new filter first and see what happens. I really want to install it Tuesday. How long does the install take? I read through it doesnt seem to complicated.
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it only took me about 45 min. with a friend. and a six pack.
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well I guess I'll need about 1.5hrs then
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