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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-06-2019, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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sway bar or links ???

After having this Ion redline for 5 years now I am still learning about the suspension. It was once said that GM modified the IRL over the base model to handle the turns and corners and the track.

I have read about the FE5 upgrade now and it appears they are better than FE3. But perhaps the FE3 was a good choice in 2003

Anyway... I have previously owned the base model which had a suspension that was, to say the least, poor. When new it made noise over small bumps and the winter seemed unsafe and almost unwilling to drive faster than 30 miles per hour. I drove it anyway most of the winters , very slow...


When I changed to the IRL, I was amazed how much better the ride was. But in the winter it still makes a little noise in the front area over bumps.


I am thinking of doing the FE5 struts now and possibly the sway bar links. The sway bar links because that was what was recommended on the base model.

Any recommendations for the sway bar links?


I also would like to add that after the winter I have absolutely no issues with the suspension.


Some of the roads are terrible and large bumps probably aren't good for any car
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Went with Proforged links myself. Rock Auto is the way.
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Idk what they consider “upgraded”. I bought the ones zzp called upgrade parts because mine were worn out and clunking. The links they sent me were clearly from 2different manufacturers. I was not impressed and I couldn’t see any difference from the ones I took off other than the “pair” they sent me were different from each other . I have know idea if the ones I took for were oem or not.
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In all honestly, I have found all links that I've gotten don't last more than a few years. I've had the OEM, Moog, cheap aftermarket ones, and now currently have the new style Moogs. All in all, I've probably gone through five or six sets of end links and ended up having them start clunking eventually.

I've heard good things about the PowerGrid endlinks, but they are pretty expensive.

Some of the endlinks are thicker and feel more stout (e.g. Moogs), but I honestly don't feel the difference out on the road during spirited driving.

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thanks for the feedback
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My Ion Quad-2 has this clunking sound but I suspect it is caused by work lower arm bushings or the entire ball joint itself: https://www.moog-suspension-parts.co...aturn_ion_2005
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My Ion Quad-2 has this clunking sound but I suspect it is caused by work lower arm bushings or the entire ball joint itself: https://www.moog-suspension-parts.co...aturn_ion_2005

When I got my regular ion, new, I asked about the noise at Saturn and the tech said nothing wrong with them

clunk clunk clunk ...
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Nothing Wrong?

The "tech"?

What does that mean?

I'm assuming "the tech" was assisting the "sales" department in selling you a car. Perhaps having it looked at by another shop, might get you the right answer. Never trust a "tech" who works for the same company that you are in the process of buying a car from.

In fact that prompts me to take it in to a front-end alignment shop and too, my trusted local small repair shop that I know mechanics there, by name, for many years now, to get an unbiased review.

The Saturn Ion, nor any other car, was designed to produce a clunk sound, when everything is working properly.
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I miss Saturn dealership

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Fe5 from cobaltSS 08-10 is the best way. If the control arms are aluminum and not black steel you are good.moog endlinks are good along with sway bar bushings and the replacement 2 bolt bar brackets.
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