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Tire recomendation for Auto-x?

What are a good set of tires for auto-x? I was looking at the Hoosier A6 but at 245$/tire I am not sure if I could afford them unless they would last a hole race seasion (running with SCCA, SCCNH, and BMW) Has anyone used the A6? How do they hold up? What other tires do you recommend?

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are you looking for slicks?

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are you looking for slicks?
Yea, they will be pure Auto-X only tires but I need them to last at least 30 sessions so I can get through the year.

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most of my friends that ran a6's could amke it through 2 seasons on them, but that would be right around your 30 event limit so they should last you a year.

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most of my friends that ran a6's could amke it through 2 seasons on them, but that would be right around your 30 event limit so they should last you a year.
That sounds good. I race with 3 different groups that do about 12 sessions each and I don't want to be shelling out 2 grand a year on tiers.

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I have run Hoosiers for years. They last well IF DRIVEN WELL. Overdrive them - especially in a 3,000 lb FWD wheelspin-happy car like the RL, and they won't last as long as you'd like. That said - depending on teh surfaces you race on, if you're a decent driver, you should be able to squeeze 30 events out of them with pancaking and rotating.

The best size for the RL in stock is 245/40/17. The kumho V710 does not come in that size. Any tiny benifit that tire MIGHT have over the A6 is lost when you factor in taller tires to get the width or narrower tires to get teh gearing right and no rubbing. Scratch Kumho.

The new BFG R1 - well, I just bought a set. By all accounts, they wear slightly better (last longer) than the A6 with very nearly the same grip. But the big plus for me is temp - the BFG's don't overheat nearly as fast, and don't get "greasy" when hot. They may take an extra run to get warm, but with the surface temps we get here, I don't see that being an issue, lol. The Hoosiers getting too hot certainly WAS an issue though!

The Hankook Z214's get okay reviews, but my experience with them is very limited.

Other "crossover" R-comps - with higher treadwear ratings of 60 to 100 - and a less "slick" tread pattern would be T1's, A048's, Victoracers, Pilot Cups, and the like. Most of those will last a good bit longer than the R1's or A6's but won't offer quite the same max grip.

As for cost... Well, buying new R-comps ain't gonna be cheap regardless, lol. By BFG's were $10 or $15 less each than the Hoosiers, but at that point what's $50 matter, LOL!

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So your liking the BFG R1 more then the A6? Are you running 245/40/17? Are you lowered? I will be lowered next year when I do start running the r-compunds.

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Stock class so no lowering, 245/40/17 R1's on 17x7 Motegi SP5's.

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I have run Hoosiers for years. They last well IF DRIVEN WELL. Overdrive them - especially in a 3,000 lb FWD wheelspin-happy car like the RL, and they won't last as long as you'd like. That said - depending on teh surfaces you race on, if you're a decent driver, you should be able to squeeze 30 events out of them with pancaking and rotating.

The best size for the RL in stock is 245/40/17. The kumho V710 does not come in that size. Any tiny benifit that tire MIGHT have over the A6 is lost when you factor in taller tires to get the width or narrower tires to get teh gearing right and no rubbing. Scratch Kumho.

The new BFG R1 - well, I just bought a set. By all accounts, they wear slightly better (last longer) than the A6 with very nearly the same grip. But the big plus for me is temp - the BFG's don't overheat nearly as fast, and don't get "greasy" when hot. They may take an extra run to get warm, but with the surface temps we get here, I don't see that being an issue, lol. The Hoosiers getting too hot certainly WAS an issue though!

The Hankook Z214's get okay reviews, but my experience with them is very limited.

Other "crossover" R-comps - with higher treadwear ratings of 60 to 100 - and a less "slick" tread pattern would be T1's, A048's, Victoracers, Pilot Cups, and the like. Most of those will last a good bit longer than the R1's or A6's but won't offer quite the same max grip.

As for cost... Well, buying new R-comps ain't gonna be cheap regardless, lol. By BFG's were $10 or $15 less each than the Hoosiers, but at that point what's $50 matter, LOL!
Great Advice! Thank you.
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Thanks for the info, I think I will be going with the BFGR1

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