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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 03-13-2018, 03:11 PM
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I’m thinking I still need spherical bushings. TBH my wheel hop is still so massive and I have solid mounts, rotated rear, changed my rims out, axels look fine, I have FE5 arms that are still legit as well. I’m going to order a pair off **** and take the arms off and press em in. Been looking around the forum seems all’s I need is those sphericals and I found some KW coilovers for 1200
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So I just want to put in my two cents here. Iím running a rotated rear trans mount and I went with Fe5 and the YYZ springs. Junk. Hit a pothole and say goodbye to your car lmao. I am running the ZZP rotated trans mount and solid engine mount with an ingalls stiffy as well. Put In a stock suspension from an 07í (car was a part out had like 12,000, on it, steal find I know.) and just installed the ZZP control arms. The wheel hop and torque the car still canít handle. Anyway Iím swapping in an LSD tranny from an 07 as well and just got new ZZP axels. Anyway, the Fe5 and sphericals, donít waste your time. Get the ZZP arms. As for the lowering, the car is low enough, unless you like bottoming out all the time when you hit a crack in the road, donít, if your dragging at the strip, YYZ it up. Trans mounts, and engine mounts will help, as I know all this from first hand a little over 2-3 years into building my RL, so take it from me go ZZP arms, LSD, ZZP axels, mounts, and hopefully Iíll find coil overs around eventually, if every brain dead making under 300whp with drivetrain loss would stop saying YYZ/FE5
Sounds like driver mod needed. Wheel hop usually happens when you are not pushing enough power to spin free and too much power to grab and go so you bounce and once you start you canít stop until you power out or let off. Control of your power is the best mod out there.
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Got the FE5 arms in FE5/YYZ’s in rear mount spacer and sway bars in. Car drives great. Thanks for all the input
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Get some real tires and it gets even better.

Edit: Be careful with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports. They can still spin at 90mph under WOT when you're pushing 25psi and 17 degrees of timing. ( 450whp-ish ).

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Haha yeah tires are next. Although I don’t think I will come close to the traction problems you have with 450 whp.
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Get some real tires and it gets even better.

Edit: Be careful with the Michelin Pilot Super Sports. They can still spin at 90mph under WOT when you're pushing 25psi and 17 degrees of timing. ( 450whp-ish ).
Rebel explain why the turbo at 24psi is 450 and my tvs at 24psi is more like 350. That canít all be from parasite loss. Iíve never understood the reasoning behind that.
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Rebel explain why the turbo at 24psi is 450 and my tvs at 24psi is more like 350. That canít all be from parasite loss. Iíve never understood the reasoning behind that.
Keep in mind that psi is only a measure of restriction. What matters is airflow and efficiency. I don't know for sure that the car makes 450 at that setting, but it should be pretty close based on prior dyno results and the math.

Turbos are simply more efficient at compressing air. They run off of waste exhaust energy and typically only take 20-30hp to run. Your TVS, while more efficient than the M62, still takes at least 65hp to turn. Your TVS also heats the charge air much more than my S256ET, this results in a less dense charge and increased risk of detonation. My IAT2s at the end of a pull typically are 5 degrees or less above what the IAT1 is, due to the turbo being in the 78% efficient range and the air to air intercooler doing its job. I know on my M62 it was at least a 40-45 degree difference, and a TVS being pushed will be similar. Higher charge temps = Less dense air in the chamber.

Engines are air pumps, the more cold, dense air you can cram into them and ignite without pulling timing the more power it will make.
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The aluminum FE5's don't deflect or bend like the steel Redline stockers will.
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Does anyone have any experience with the ZZP lower control arms?
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