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EvenStar said:
http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-633 2004 Saturn Ion Redline.pdf

Looks like AEM has released this, would this be old news or new? Always says coming soon...just thought id ask lol
I looked at the info for this file and it was last updated 11/8/2004. Not sure what else has been done, but these numbers aren't showing the supposed '17hp' gains that K&N is saying we'll get from their setup. these seem to be more normal and believeable from a CAI (5-10hp gains). What does everyone else think? If K&N is going to charge $400 and we can get this for around $200-$250, what will you get?
 

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I think 17 hp, almost 10%, is a ridiculous claim, and 5-10 is very realistic. If they're claiming almost 10%, then K&N's kit on a Mustang Cobra should deliver almost 40 hp - it delivers 21 at WOT with the hood open, 18 with the hood closed - on a 390 hp car.

I'd do the AEM just for the price - no need to spend nearly twice the money.

Next idea - so where the hell is the product??
 

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The AEM is the short ram, not a CAI. Just so ya know...
 

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Jim Lewis said:
I think 17 hp, almost 10%, is a ridiculous claim, and 5-10 is very realistic. If they're claiming almost 10%, then K&N's kit on a Mustang Cobra should deliver almost 40 hp - it delivers 21 at WOT with the hood open, 18 with the hood closed - on a 390 hp car.

I'd do the AEM just for the price - no need to spend nearly twice the money.

Next idea - so where the hell is the product??

different cars react differently to similar mods, you CANNOT compare results of an intake from one car to the next...
 

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Jim Lewis said:
I think 17 hp, almost 10%, is a ridiculous claim, and 5-10 is very realistic. If they're claiming almost 10%, then K&N's kit on a Mustang Cobra should deliver almost 40 hp - it delivers 21 at WOT with the hood open, 18 with the hood closed - on a 390 hp car.

I'd do the AEM just for the price - no need to spend nearly twice the money.

Next idea - so where the hell is the product??
I'm with you on the gains, it does seem pretty high. True, it's hard to compare one car to another, but 10% is pretty high. I'm still waiting for someone to confirm that the intake even exists, and I need to see a dyno chart before I even THINK about it.
 

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different cars react differently to similar mods, you CANNOT compare results of an intake from one car to the next...
Dude, I wasn't saying that we shold get 40 hp because a Cobra did, I'm saying that a 10% claim on any car is pretty ridiculous, and falls into the "Tornado" and "Turbonator" range of fraudulent claims.

K&N is claiming almost 10% on the Redline. I'm saying it ain't happening. I used an example, to show realistic K&N numbers on another car I had dyno results for, a 2004 Cobra. They showed about 5%.
 

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Somewhere in the series of posts regarding The K&N, someone gave a corrected HP claim of 13, not 17.
 

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Fineline said:
Somewhere in the series of posts regarding The K&N, someone gave a corrected HP claim of 13, not 17.
unknownsuperhero wrote: Talked to motorsports today and asked if there is an intake available. They said yes it is a K&N and it will be in our warehouse on the 15th, I asked how much he said $383.00 Full CAI, and a 13hp increase. SOOO I guess there is another "confirmation" . . . I am stoked. Come on AEM and Injen, give K&N some damn competition so they will lower their friggen prices.

13 HP sounds more realistic, price is still to high.
 

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Have you compared other CAI prices? Go look at AEM's price list. They're all over $350.
 

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Have you compared other CAI prices? Go look at AEM's price list. They're all over $350.
yes, but I've also seen a selling price of $146 on one site - not available yet, but when it is, it's $146...
 

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Jim Lewis said:
yes, but I've also seen a selling price of $146 on one site - not available yet, but when it is, it's $146...
For the same intake that is on AEM's for $360? That's a great markdown, what car is that for? I would assume something real common?
 

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summitracing.com is having sales on the aem cai's. I bought one for my sisters 03 tacoma for $145. But to clarify, it's just a clearance sale not regular price.
 

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No matter what the rarity of the part and how new it is determines the price..basically an AEM CAI for a Redline would be rarer than that of a stock Ion, so in turn the price is more. I also saw that on the site..most of them are over 300 dollars..maybe because its from the site and are all listed price?
 

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For the same intake that is on AEM's for $360? That's a great markdown, what car is that for? I would assume something real common?
No, that was for the Redline. I contacted the company, and they said it wasn't released yet, but that was the tentative price - haven't a clue where it was, this was a month ago.
 
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