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I want to race one....i dont care what ya got. No money involved...unless you want to race for it.

Roll, Dig, I'll even give car lengths....

I drive a 1999 WS6 Trans Am, Black

Mods: Mac Midlength headers, LS6 Intake, Gutted Cats, 02 Sims, K&N, Lid, Loudmouth exhaust with no resonator, all free mods, Spec Stage 2 clutch with steel billet flywheel, and within the month, T-Rex Cam from thunder racing.

Last dyno, before the LS6 intake... 340 HP 358ftlbs torque.

1/4 13.116 on Eagle F1's in cold weather. On a nice hooking day, 12.7's.
 

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you will win why try man, i drove just a reg ws6 and it will win so why try us

To see just how fast these redlines are, considering some of the guys here claim to be beating Mach 1 Stangs, and Fbodys left and right.....
 

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You're gonna have to show me the posts that are flying 'left and right', since I only see a few, and most involve older F-bodies and Mustangs. You telling me that you don't have some slightly incredible claims on F-body forums? I hope not, cause I've seen everything from people with cat-backs claiming to have beat Vipers to 'hanging with a Ferrari'....
 

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You're gonna have to show me the posts that are flying 'left and right', since I only see a few, and most involve older F-bodies and Mustangs. You telling me that you don't have some slightly incredible claims on F-body forums? I hope not, cause I've seen everything from people with cat-backs claiming to have beat Vipers to 'hanging with a Ferrari'....

Ive never seen a post like that....atleast not on the popular boards that i post on....FBody/Corvette people are usually the most level headed car guys around.....

its not very hard, nor expensive, to make a Fbody beat a viper though.....

And there are a few 800+ HP local fbodys that would make a ferrari look like a civic...
 

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Yes, I'm fully aware, I've owned at least one for 12 years now. If you're looking to be a total dick, you can give it a shot. I'm looking for the dozens of posts about smoking Camaros and such that you're pointing out. The search button is right up top, why don't you show them to me... my guess is there's less than 3....
 

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Yes, I'm fully aware, I've owned at least one for 12 years now. If you're looking to be a total dick, you can give it a shot. I'm looking for the dozens of posts about smoking Camaros and such that you're pointing out. The search button is right up top, why don't you show them to me... my guess is there's less than 3....


who said anything about dozens of posts?
 

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considering some of the guys here claim to be beating Mach 1 Stangs, and Fbodys left and right.....
This statement implies that this is occuring with signifigant frequency. Are you not familiar with the slang term that you used?

As far as a Redline against a Camaro or Mustang goes... it just depends on what year, and the multitude of other factors that involve the musclecar at hand. We know how fast the Redline is, they're all the same and they're all stock. Right around 200 hp at the wheels and 2900lbs. Now, tell me that there aren't F-bodies and Mustangs that can lose to those hp to weight ratios and I'll tell you that you don't know shit about F-bodies. What does a 275hp Camaro put down to the rear wheels to move that 500+ lb weight difference? I know some were a little under-rated, but anything that's near stock from 95ish back is quite possible. What do you think a 95 Z28 with an automatic tranny puts to the rear wheels? How much over 200 do you think it is?
 

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Some of the Mustangs from the same period were total jokes, we have a member here with a mustang, and he will be more than willing to tell you that it's slower with some mods...
 

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Sp00ner said:
This statement implies that this is occuring with signifigant frequency. Are you not familiar with the slang term that you used?

As far as a Redline against a Camaro or Mustang goes... it just depends on what year, and the multitude of other factors that involve the musclecar at hand. We know how fast the Redline is, they're all the same and they're all stock. Right around 200 hp at the wheels and 2900lbs. Now, tell me that there aren't F-bodies and Mustangs that can lose to those hp to weight ratios and I'll tell you that you don't know shit about F-bodies. What does a 275hp Camaro put down to the rear wheels to move that 500+ lb weight difference? I know some were a little under-rated, but anything that's near stock from 95ish back is quite possible. What do you think a 95 Z28 with an automatic tranny puts to the rear wheels? How much over 200 do you think it is?
my 97 with 6 speed made 245 rwhp stock. It weighed 3,290 without me in it. I don't know what an auto would make. *edit* mines after they added a 2 cat system and upped the rating 10hp though.
 

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Sp00ner said:
This statement implies that this is occuring with signifigant frequency. Are you not familiar with the slang term that you used?

As far as a Redline against a Camaro or Mustang goes... it just depends on what year, and the multitude of other factors that involve the musclecar at hand. We know how fast the Redline is, they're all the same and they're all stock. Right around 200 hp at the wheels and 2900lbs. Now, tell me that there aren't F-bodies and Mustangs that can lose to those hp to weight ratios and I'll tell you that you don't know shit about F-bodies. What does a 275hp Camaro put down to the rear wheels to move that 500+ lb weight difference? I know some were a little under-rated, but anything that's near stock from 95ish back is quite possible. What do you think a 95 Z28 with an automatic tranny puts to the rear wheels? How much over 200 do you think it is?

Most of them ive seen dynoed 290-310 completley stock

LS1's usually dyno at 315-320 stock.
 

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290-310, at the wheels, stock with an auto? Ummm... ok...
 

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my 97 with 6 speed made 245 rwhp stock. It weighed 3,290 without me in it. I don't know what an auto would make. *edit* mines after they added a 2 cat system and upped the rating 10hp though.

THAT low? Was it on a dynojet, or a mustang dyno?


Mustang dyno's tend to read about 30hp off for some reason....
 

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290-310, at the wheels, stock with an auto? Ummm... ok...


never underestimate the power of the LT1 son... :cool:


The LS1 though....that shit was touched by the hand of god himself. :eek:
 

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It's not underestimating, you're just dead wrong about that... I'm looking at charts right now, I can post a few if you like, and there all ranging from the mid 200's...
 

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Ive never seen a post like that....atleast not on the popular boards that i post on....FBody/Corvette people are usually the most level headed car guys around.....

its not very hard, nor expensive, to make a Fbody beat a viper though.....

And there are a few 800+ HP local fbodys that would make a ferrari look like a civic...
The only thing an Fbody can't out run is a gas station. :D

I live in MD (rockville) and I have a Cobalt SS/SC. I really don't know how to race cars however so I wouldn't be much of a challenge.
 

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This site seems pretty unbiased... here's two that are mildly modded. Yes, it says stock, but if you click on the info there are some mild mods there, 20hp at most to me. 275hp at the wheels... without the mods, no more than 250... almost 3500 lbs with driver... sorry, no reason it can't be done. Now you start talking about the LS1, and it's a different story.

http://www.dynoperformance.com/sear...aro+z28&Final=1&Year=1995&Mods=&Submit=Search

I think these are manuals too....
 

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i hang with my buddies 94 lt1 firebird from a roll all through my 3rd gear, when he hits that next gear (3rd or 4th?) he's long gone.

from a dig, i've got him up until that same point. don't think i'd have a chance with the ls1, MAYBE hold on from a dig, MAYBE.

i have to mention he's auto
 

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i also have to mention that i showed him the video of the RL vs lt1 z28 and didn't quite believe it until we did the same. he later told me that it was exactly like the video. not much you can do about that amount of torque...
 

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i also have to mention that i showed him the video of the RL vs lt1 z28 and didn't quite believe it until we did the same. he later told me that it was exactly like the video. not much you can do about that amount of torque...


Waiting for the auto to kick in is like waiting for grass to grow in antartica....auto w/no stall = slow start.


auto with 3500 stall = the win.
 
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