[planetSlowCar1]

Is there any way to get rid of them and still have working signals?

PLEASE refrain from giving opinions on whether they work or not, or decrease accidents or anything like that. PLEASE no ghetto solutions like leaving the park brake set or turning on the parking lights instead.

 

[zfactor]

well yes you could get rid of them i have done it on many occasions for people. how much electrcal backround do you have and how do feel about messing with your cars wiring? answer that then we can get into how its done. i dont like giving out info to someone who could or will mess thier car up, i just wouldn't feel right about it.

 

[goofyguy]

parking brake switch. It has to be modified. But you will get a warning chime because it thinks its on. From there you have to disable the chime. But you will still have a warning light on all the time.

 

[zfactor]

no you woln't. cut the wire use a relay from ignition to trigger the circut so it thinks it is still working properly send second wire like normal from the original to the brake switch to turn off the chime. it really easy but i hate when i get these cars in with the harness all chopped up so i discourage it unless you can work with relays. ill post a diagram if you are interested in doing it

 

[Smurf]

how do you disconnect the switch that controls the air bags and the switch that controls the rear brake lights.......I really dont think we need these either

 

[zfactor]

send me a pm with your email ill send you some info. i cant post any info here about air bags because in fl it is against the law on any newer car to disconnect them now even if you are putting in a new steering wheel i cant put any info here in the forum on this

 

[SaturnI0Nredline]

yea dissconnect the air bags, seatbelts, steering linkage, brakes, and 1 plug wire. Then see how many trees we can hit on the way some where.... What are we doing running from the law lol!!!

 

[zfactor]

well i have my airbags dico'ed because i put a momo wheel in mine so it can be done your just not supposed to do it.

 

[Black05Redline]

In my cavalier there was a wire going into the bcm that when grounded would turn the drl's off. thats how i disabled the drl's in my cavalier. so if anyone can get a hold of wiring diagrams for the red line they could check this out.

 

[zfactor]

Do Not Test For This Wire With A Test Light Very Important!!!!

hey black the only problem with that is you may cause a leakage problem through ground. on some cars doing it this way can a) cause the battery to go dead after an extended parking of a few days or more, or b) cause an eventual problem with the bcm. you are basically sending a constant ground into a circut that should be switched. again just so you all know i used to make microchips for ibm and reapir robots at the east fishkill , ny facility for ibm. i am a master mecp (mobile elctronics certification) certified tech and it may not cause either of these but that is a chance you are taking i have seen it happen on many cars before with new techs that i have hired and though they new everything so they didnt check with me first. also NEVER EVER EVER USE A STANDARD TEST LIGHT ON A BCM CONTROLLED CAR TO TEST FOR THIS WIRE!!!!!!! THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. YOU CAN AND USUALLY WILL CAUSE IREVERSABLE DAMAGE AND FRY YOUR BCM!!!!!!!!! I HAVE SEEN NEW INSTALLERS DO THIS MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE. EITHER USE A COMPUTER SAFE LIGHT OR A MULTI METER TO TEST ANYHTING ON THE BCM

 

[Black05Redline]

Thats good to know z. a couple months after i did it my car was going dead like every week or every two weeks. i wonder if this is what caused it. but i also knew that my power door lock switched was not plugged in behind the door panel, after i plugged it in it didnt go dead. i then traded it in a few weeks after.

 

[zfactor]

na the lock switch not being plugged in wouldn't do it. i see this often when kids bring their cars in they tried to wire themselves and couldnt do it. i pull of the panels and usually find something unplugged here and there.

 

[Black05Redline]

i see, my thinking was that there might be water getting into it. the other way it could be done is with a toggle switch then. you could totally cut any current from going through the wire then. would this work?

 

[zfactor]

well i guess it could but i would still use a relay when its on to isolate the circuit better safe than buying a new bcm right???

 

[planetSlowCar1]

I'm not an expert or anything but I'm comfortable working with wires. Post up a diagram with wire colors and locations so I can see exactly how involved it is. Thanx for the help.

 

[zfactor]

Get This I Was Contaced Via Email , Dont Know How They Got My Email!!!!!!!!!!!! By Someone At Saturn Yes This Is True!!!!! Asking To Please Not Post Information On How To Do This!!!!! They Said They Could And Would Pursue This If I Posted A Visual Diagram Of How To Disconnect The Drl's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Cant F'in Believe This Crap I Might Just To Spite Them But Dont Want Them To Come After Me For It. I Think This Is Bs!!!!!!!! And They Explained Further If Any Of The Cars Came Into The Local Dealerships Where I Am Located And They Did Not Have Them Running The Dealers Are (supposedly) Insturcted To Tell Them And Will Contact Me Again.

You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!!

 

[Black05Redline]

Wow that is suprising. I don't know where they get the nerve though, it isn't their car. there might be a law about disabling safety equipment in a car, though i don't know if it applies to DRL's.

 

[Sp00ner]

Get This I Was Contaced Via Email , Dont Know How They Got My Email!!!!!!!!!!!! By Someone At Saturn Yes This Is True!!!!! Asking To Please Not Post Information On How To Do This!!!!! They Said They Could And Would Pursue This If I Posted A Visual Diagram Of How To Disconnect The Drl's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Cant F'in Believe This Crap I Might Just To Spite Them But Dont Want Them To Come After Me For It. I Think This Is Bs!!!!!!!! And They Explained Further If Any Of The Cars Came Into The Local Dealerships Where I Am Located And They Did Not Have Them Running The Dealers Are (supposedly) Insturcted To Tell Them And Will Contact Me Again.

You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!!

That's complete BS, what are they gonna do? Take your fingerprints? Bunch of crap... they have no idea who does it.

 

[zfactor]

i wsih i could say but the email i got was not from corporate. i just called them and talked to them, so im thinking it is from the dealership here??? or another one?? but how did they get my email address?? it is not posted in my profile here. they would have to get it from a mod or admin??? thats what i want to know!!!!! i know they cant really do anything but i want to know how the hell they got my email

any ideas on how they got it let me know i am quite pissed at the time!!!

 

[Sp00ner]

Havent you posted your email in some forum messages? I thought so, maybe not. Have you told anyone your email in PMs? I smell something here... we need a more 'private' forum...