ecotec 2.0sc engine/gearbox questions

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vxer

Discussion Starter · Apr 12, 2005

Hi There,

Does anyone know whether the ecotec 2.0SC engine is a direct drop in replacement for the 2.2 unit? Does it mount to the same gear box as a 2.2 and what about the engine mount points?

Anyone know what the GM part number is for the eaton m62 SC on the 2.0?

Why all the questions, you ask? Well, i've got a vx220 (i live in england) which has the ecotec 2.2 engine - it would be nice to be able to upgrade to the 2.0SC. It would be even better if it were a drop in replacement!

Cheers, Paul.

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AZKMK

· #2 · Apr 12, 2005

What F'ing car is that.... almost looks like the Lotus I saw a few weeks ago at a car gathering....

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 12, 2005

Well, its built by lotus and sold by GM in europe...

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Sp00ner

· #4 · Apr 12, 2005

I believe it's where the Sky and the Solstice are born from...

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goofyguy

· #5 · Apr 12, 2005

yes it will bolt up to the tranny and the motor counts should be swapable to the new motor. Its uses a stock ecotec 2.2 block so it should be no problem. You will need the ecu as well.

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Sp00ner

· #6 · Apr 12, 2005

We had another gentelman from Germany looking for a complete 2.0 SC engine for, I believe, the same type of car. We're not sure if it's a direct drop in replacement. I am pretty sure that the dimensions are the same on the block, I'm sure it can be made to fit. I cannot tell you that it is, for certain, a drop in fit. Sorry, guess that dosen't help too much...

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #7 · Apr 12, 2005

goofyguy said:
yes it will bolt up to the tranny and the motor counts should be swapable to the new motor. Its uses a stock ecotec 2.2 block so it should be no problem. You will need the ecu as well.

Thats sounds good!

Has anyone done this swap from the standard ion's 2.2 to the redline's 2.0SC?

I guess you have to find somewhere for the intercooler radiator, too...

Cheers, Paul.

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 12, 2005

Sp00ner said:
We had another gentelman from Germany looking for a complete 2.0 SC engine for, I believe, the same type of car. We're not sure if it's a direct drop in replacement. I am pretty sure that the dimensions are the same on the block, I'm sure it can be made to fit. I cannot tell you that it is, for certain, a drop in fit. Sorry, guess that dosen't help too much...

I think i know who you mean, actually! In the end he managed to convice a german tuner to attach the SC from the 2.0 to the 2.2 -but you also have to make some engine mods to get this to work safely. It ended up costing £4700 a pop (about $8000) which is pretty expensive

...

Seems like it might be cheaper to buy the crate engine (if it were available here

) and stick that in!

Cheers, Paul.

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kazkillinger

· #9 · Apr 12, 2005

i thought the vx220 had a 2.0 turbo?? and yes it is the ecotec. the engine size ranges from 2.0 to 2.4 depending on bore and stroke. p.s.why not opt for a vx220r engine ?

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 12, 2005

kazkillinger said:
i thought the vx220 had a 2.0 turbo?? and yes it is the ecotec. the engine size ranges from 2.0 to 2.4 depending on bore and stroke. p.s.why not opt for a vx220r engine ?

Yup, there is a vx220 with a turbo (different model, i don't have it), but it runs a different engine again - cast iron lump ZLET and a different sub-frame / different rear body shell. The vxr220 engine is the same engine as the vx220 turbo - just more tuned

. I can't just swap one for other due to sub-frame / body shell differences. Besides, I'd prefer the SC power delivery to the turbo...

Cheers, Paul.

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Aeain

· #11 · Apr 12, 2005

Well, Saturn Motorsports took their 2.0SC Engine out of the Red Line and put a 2.2L Turbo Motor in it.

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 12, 2005

Aeain said:
Well, Saturn Motorsports took their 2.0SC Engine out of the Red Line and put a 2.2L Turbo Motor in it.

Interesting! The ecotec2.2? Without engine mods/strengthening thats not going to last too long...

Did they run into any probs or was it straight forward to swap, do you know?

Cheers, Paul.

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Aeain

· #13 · Apr 12, 2005

vxer said:
Interesting! The ecotec2.2? Without engine mods/strengthening thats not going to last too long...

Did they run into any probs or was it straight forward to swap, do you know?

Cheers, Paul.

It was a beefed up 2.2 making 400hp. I believe they swapped the Engine and the ECU and that's it.

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vxer

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 12, 2005

Aeain said:
It was a beefed up 2.2 making 400hp. I believe they swapped the Engine and the ECU and that's it.

I read GM racing's report on the ecotec 2.2 dragster report <here> with interest. They de-stroked it to 2.0 and did quite a lot of mods to avoid blowing it up.

Cheers, Paul.

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