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Anyone know what putting the HKS exhaust for the regular ion onto a redline will do? Would it hurt the performance at all? The piping is 2.5" which is the same as the stock redline piping but I was wondering about the how the flow of the exhaust designed for a N/A'ed engine would affect the S/C'ed engine. Thanks
 

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2.5" will be fine as long as down the road you are not going to a full turbo setup or going to twincharge the car at that time you will probably want a 3" or so and i dont think it will fit anyway i could be wrong and correct me if i am
 

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AlphaJaguar5 said:
Anyone know what putting the HKS exhaust for the regular ion onto a redline will do? Would it hurt the performance at all? The piping is 2.5" which is the same as the stock redline piping but I was wondering about the how the flow of the exhaust designed for a N/A'ed engine would affect the S/C'ed engine. Thanks
Stock ION Piping is 2.0" and the HKS for the ION is 2.25"

The Redline stock exhaust is 2.25"

Why spend the money on the HKS and all your doing is just replacing the stock exhaust with the same size aftermarket exhast??? Waste of money.

Have someone make a custom exhaust for your car for the same price as the HKS or even less. Make sure the piping is 2.5" or 3"
 

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stock redline exhaust is 2.5, or so i'm under the impression it is. and you're better off removing the section that drops to 2.25 and the muffler replaced by one of your choice, than to spend the money on that exhaust system, which, if it's 2.25, will make your exhaust smaller...
 

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2.5" will be fine as long as down the road you are not going to a full turbo setup or going to twincharge the car at that time you will probably want a 3" or so and i dont think it will fit anyway i could be wrong and correct me if i am
3" will fit but you will not benifit from it unless your making at least 650HP+

2.5" is fine and will flow much better then stock and make power, I have 2.5" from the header to the muffler and made nice gains from it after I dynoed the car.
 

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Vita said:
stock redline exhaust is 2.5, or so i'm under the impression it is. and you're better off removing the section that drops to 2.25 and the muffler replaced by one of your choice, than to spend the money on that exhaust system, which, if it's 2.25, will make your exhaust smaller...
I had the piping measured before I did my exhaust and no it is not 2.5" stock. I am the first person do custom exhaust on the Redline back in Aug. of 2004....

Also laid the two exhausts next to each other before mine was installed, not the same size.
 

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i dont know about that 650 or so?? there are hundreds of cars out there eclipses, srt's etc.... that run 3" on a TURBO car with great success. notice i didnt tell him to run it stock. a lot of aftermarket turbo exhausts are 3" a lot depends on application. but to my knowledge as VITA said the stock exhaust on our car was 2.5" and a small section was 2.25" so going to to a full 2.5" would seemingly not be that great of a benefit.
 

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i dont know about that 650 or so?? there are hundreds of cars out there eclipses, srt's etc.... that run 3" on a TURBO car with great success. notice i didnt tell him to run it stock. a lot of aftermarket turbo exhausts are 3" a lot depends on application. but to my knowledge as VITA said the stock exhaust on our car was 2.5" and a small section was 2.25" so going to to a full 2.5" would seemingly not be that great of a benefit.
Yes I know alot of cars have 3" exhaust but to really make gains and get the full benifit usally you should be making over 500HP+ I have been in this game way longer then most people and would not do something to my car that is not going to make power....Guess you don't know me that well, some poeple on here know me and know my old car 2001 SC2 built & nitrous fed. :D

This is why I don't post much on boards to much anymore people believe what one person says and then they swear it is true and never believe anything else...Like the stock exhaust is 2.5" no it is not. and why did I make over 10HP gain when I did my [email protected] 2.5" :rolleyes:

Pics...http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1790&highlight=custom+exhaust
 

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Yes I know alot of cars have 3" exhaust but to really make gains and get the full benifit usally you should be making over 500HP+ I have been in this game way longer then most people and would not do something to my car that is not going to make power....Guess you don't know me that well, some poeple on here know me and know my old car 2001 SC2 built & nitrous fed. :D

This is why I don't post much on boards to much anymore people believe what one person says and then they swear it is true and never believe anything else...Like the stock exhaust is 2.5" no it is not. and why did I make over 10HP gain when I did my [email protected] 2.5" :rolleyes:

Pics...http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1790&highlight=custom+exhaust
i'll take your word for it, but i've seen it, and it appears to be 2.5, the piping is pretty big. hell, you could've gained that 10 hp from eliminating where the o2 bung is pressed into the piping and using a better muffler alone
 

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Not even going to reply anymore you guys can believe what you want, and I hope your cars run well. People who do work to my cars build Pro Race cars and are also drivers of Pro NHRA cars...so you know what they really have no clue as to what there doing...

Yeah I rather listen to what people on the internet post and have nothing done to there cars.













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BlackRedLine said:
Not even going to reply anymore you guys can believe what you want, and I hope your cars run well. People who do work to my cars build Pro Race cars and are also drivers of Pro NHRA cars...so you know what they really have no clue as to what there doing...

Yeah I rather listen to what people on the internet post and have nothing done to there cars.













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chill out tough guy, nobody was discrediting you at all. think it's time to have a drink to calm the nerves?

and for what it's worth, you probobly could make up 10hp switching mufflers and getting rid of where the o2 bung was pressed in, whether it takes guys who build Pro Race cars and are also drivers of Pro NHRA cars or not.

and i'm pretty sure there were others who did up there exhaust before august...
 

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chill out tough guy, nobody was discrediting you at all. think it's time to have a drink to calm the nerves?

and for what it's worth, you probobly could make up 10hp switching mufflers and getting rid of where the o2 bung was pressed in, whether it takes guys who build Pro Race cars and are also drivers of Pro NHRA cars...
First off I am not a guy... 2nd I am fine not upset.

Just that you try to help people out with info and all they do is doubt what you say, that is fine. Just stay tuned for when my car is done 500HP+ to the wheels let just say not going to be superchared and full standalone...
 

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First off I am not a guy... 2nd I am fine not upset.

Just that you try to help people out with info and all they do is doubt what you say, that is fine. Just stay tuned for when my car is done 500HP+ to the wheels let just say not going to be superchared and full standalone...
ohhhh, sorry miss, maybe it's time to take that midol huh? all i was saying is that i've been under the car, and from what i've seen, it appears to be 2.5. i also said i'd take your word for it that it's 2.25....

i'm glad you're building up your car, but what it has to do with the exhaust discussion baffles me, but please keep us up to date on your progress, as i'm very interested.

you wouldn't happen to be the girl who had the sc2 and was stating how the RL was slow, and has a notchy shifter would you, you know, when the RL first came out? if so, i take back my midol comment, as any post of yours i've ever read has had attitude...
 

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Wow... talk about touchy...
 

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Nope only person after me was Berry with silver RL with dual exhaust and only from the cat back.
my point was that there are plenty of people who don't even know forums on the internet exist, and plenty of people run out and get there exhaust done first thing on any car.

now i'm only playing devil's advocate here, so don't take offense to my remarks, as that's not how they are intended.

and i'd really like to know what's up with your car, as i'm sure plenty others here are interested as well, so come back often and let us know how it's going?

by the way, i take it you got custom headers made, if so, what did you dyno after getting the work done?
 

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my point was that there are plenty of people who don't even know forums on the internet exist, and plenty of people run out and get there exhaust done first thing on any car.

now i'm only playing devil's advocate here, so don't take offense to my remarks, as that's not how they are intended.

and i'd really like to know what's up with your car, as i'm sure plenty others here are interested as well, so come back often and let us know how it's going?

by the way, i take it you got custom headers made, if so, what did you dyno after getting the work done?
I am not the girl who said the shifter was notchy before I got the car. I have never had one problem with the shifter I like it, it could be a little shorter for my taste but stock is fine for now.


I really did not want to say anything about the car untill it is done. It is a project being done with the help of SMS and will be getting a few parts that are same as the parts on the pro car and doing a custom turbo set up with AEM standalone custom harness made and will be built & tuned by Lance from Toyomoto....he use to drive the Hot Rod HP Civic in the NHRA Hot Rod Class and I also have some help and support for the car from a few friends that run in NHRA and know the ECOTEC motor in & out.
 

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I am not the girl who said the shifter was notchy before I got the car. I have never had one problem with the shifter I like it, it could be a little shorter for my taste but stock is fine for now.


I really did not want to say anything about the car untill it is done. It is a project being done with the help of SMS and will be getting a few parts that are same as the parts on the pro car and doing a custom turbo set up with AEM standalone custom harness made and will be built & tuned by Lance from Toyomoto....he use to drive the Hot Rod HP Civic in the NHRA Hot Rod Class and I also have some help and support for the car from a few friends that run in NHRA and know the ECOTEC motor in & out.
sorry, i just had to ask. once upon a time i read a post somewhere on some saturn board where some girl with an sc2 and nitrous said the RL is slow and has a notchy shifter, tried to put two and two together.

sounds like you'll have yourself one hell of a car there, hope to see some vids when it's all done. have fun with it.
 

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well not to spoil your fun but we at out shop here in FL did 4 mandrel bent stainless exhausts BEFORE you did on redlines. sorry miss not to sound rude but i know more big names than most people ever will in their lives. icluding the likes of greddy people at hks turbonetics well just to many to list here. i have in business for 14 years doing this. i deal first hand with many of my vendors and manufactures testing new product and doing r&d work for them on my dynojet. i will be speaking to lisa kubo this week and also stephan and craig paisly also this week. i know craig pretty well. i also know the guys (and girl) at sp engineering home of most of the worlds fastest street driven cars. it dont matter to me that your a female either we all have a place in this business. just dont get so cocky about stuff there will always be someone who did it before you and will do it better after you; it may not be me or anyone in particular but thats why we have 4 cylinders in the 6's now. there will always be someone faster than you and that has done things better its inevitable and will happen. trust me its happend to the best of us including all the names mentioned above.
 

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and to my eyes the pipe looked to be about 2.5" except for that small area vita spoke of. i bend pipe every day. i can usually pick pipe out from across the room
 
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