My RL when I shift into 2nd gear the car like hesitstes when going into that gear like its not getting fuel or something. Anyone else expierence this? Its going in the shop as I speak, just was curious to see if anyone else had this issue? I HAVE HAD the Upgrade done to it as well.
Hesitstion when shifting into 2nd gear
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Mine does it to and it's all thanks to the latest ECU update. Never happened before that.
hesitstion update
REALLY?
I thought I was the only one.....well my co-worker / service manager asked me how when why it hesitates and I told him it seems to only do it when its cold and around 2000 rpm. He looked up a bulliten that mentioned it could be to shifting too early. I told him I dont think that is the reason b/c I know when to shift LOL.
Its not in the shop yet, my shop foreman is going to look at it hopefully, I'll update you on any findings.
Now I can tell him that 3 other people have the same issue and that they are shifting too early as well? C'mon.
REALLY?
I thought I was the only one.....well my co-worker / service manager asked me how when why it hesitates and I told him it seems to only do it when its cold and around 2000 rpm. He looked up a bulliten that mentioned it could be to shifting too early. I told him I dont think that is the reason b/c I know when to shift LOL.
Its not in the shop yet, my shop foreman is going to look at it hopefully, I'll update you on any findings.
Now I can tell him that 3 other people have the same issue and that they are shifting too early as well? C'mon.
Any one else have an issue with second being sticky on an upshift? WhenI down shift it's fine but on upshift with heavy throttle (so...always) I sometimes miss second because it just won't slide in smooth. If I really pull on it then it will go but shifting should not be that much work.
Thanks for your help,
Campbell
Thanks for your help,
Campbell
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Ditto on this problem... it feels like a huge hole in the fuel map from 2000 to about 2700 RPMs in second. And since I shift from 1-2 at about 3K, it happens ALL THE TIME. Plus, the 1-2 shift sucks big time... very hard to time it to be smooth. I actually take it out of "1", throw the gear selector into neutral, and then bring it down and left into "2"... I have found that it's the best way to get the timing right between those gears. (Close ratio my @ss)
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I had the latest update (suposidly, I don't trust the dealership though) two weeks ago and it went away for about a week. At first it shifted smooth as glass into second, now it is slowly coming back. It is starting to frustrate me. I'm about ready to rip the damn computer out and put a F.A.S.T. system in.
i know, i just wasn't sure if you had the 'latest' version, which they told me makes a HUGE difference in power, smoothness, etc.hbko181 said:
i'll wait and see how big of a difference there really is, since they said instead of wheel hop, i'll be getting pure spin after the update.
does this happen to you after it's warmed up. that's the only time i notice it, but i usually drive harder after she's ready to go. could just be a VERY poor tune when in warmup mode, but then again, i'm no expert
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mine pops out of 2nd gear one in awhile and i grind, it sucks so bad.
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Update:
I just talked to my service MGR and he called Saturn TACH (tech assistance) and they have heard nothing about it, or received any complaints about this exact issue. He is going to close the Repair Order out as a "customer complaint" and if enough people with redlines document this same issue and have the repair orders closed out this way Saturn will look into it. So lets get the ball rolling !!!!
I just talked to my service MGR and he called Saturn TACH (tech assistance) and they have heard nothing about it, or received any complaints about this exact issue. He is going to close the Repair Order out as a "customer complaint" and if enough people with redlines document this same issue and have the repair orders closed out this way Saturn will look into it. So lets get the ball rolling !!!!
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Yep mine does the same thing, first to second minor bog. Also when i shift going slow i can hear the linkage pretty loudly as it falls into gear. Does anybody else hear it that? or have i worn out my tranny allready.
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WOAH!SilverRedLine04 said:
You need to go to the dealer and get that fixed. I don't think anyone here has the problem of haveing the shifter pop out of 2nd gear. So far (knock on wood) i haven't grinded 2nd.After the last flash right after i notice that hesitation to.
Worst than that, the really next day, been waiting on a red light and a friend of mine stoped behing me, to bug him i put the car in reverse and hit the throttle to about 5000rpm, his girlfriend got scared but he wave at me and snap the throttle back , cool light turn green shift in first gear and the car stall.
Shit real busy place to stall, restart but as soon as i hit the gas, it`s like if the engine got drawn or if i got 2 cylinder of the 4 working.
Pushed the car in the first safe spot i saw, try again same things don`t run well at all.
My friend in the car behind helped me and offered me is car by the time i call road side assist, cause he had a hockey game 2 bloc away, i aggred drive to the arena and come back to try again the car.
At that time everything had been ok like nothing ever happened.
I thing had been just a relearn procedure of the ecm, cause beside the hesitation in second gear nothing else ever happened again.
Worst than that, the really next day, been waiting on a red light and a friend of mine stoped behing me, to bug him i put the car in reverse and hit the throttle to about 5000rpm, his girlfriend got scared but he wave at me and snap the throttle back , cool light turn green shift in first gear and the car stall.
Shit real busy place to stall, restart but as soon as i hit the gas, it`s like if the engine got drawn or if i got 2 cylinder of the 4 working.
Pushed the car in the first safe spot i saw, try again same things don`t run well at all.
My friend in the car behind helped me and offered me is car by the time i call road side assist, cause he had a hockey game 2 bloc away, i aggred drive to the arena and come back to try again the car.
At that time everything had been ok like nothing ever happened.
I thing had been just a relearn procedure of the ecm, cause beside the hesitation in second gear nothing else ever happened again.
(Newbie here. Great forum you got here folks.)
Yep, mine does the old "hestitation between 1st/2nd"-aroonie too. Started after the 3K service when I had the computer flashed.
Like someone else mentioned, I only see this when the engine is cold. I find if I slip the clutch a little more I can avoid the bad spot but it still catches me out more often than not.
Anyone else also getting a some spluttering for about 10 seconds after starting on cold mornings also? Seems to take that long for the choke to cut in or something. Again this only started since the flash. It could be connected.
Cheers,
Chris
Yep, mine does the old "hestitation between 1st/2nd"-aroonie too. Started after the 3K service when I had the computer flashed.
Like someone else mentioned, I only see this when the engine is cold. I find if I slip the clutch a little more I can avoid the bad spot but it still catches me out more often than not.
Anyone else also getting a some spluttering for about 10 seconds after starting on cold mornings also? Seems to take that long for the choke to cut in or something. Again this only started since the flash. It could be connected.
Cheers,
Chris
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