This post probably should have been in the Racing Discussion secion, I figure though more people will read it here.
Redlining?
I wanted to get an idea of at what RPM people like to shift gears in their Ion redline?
I generally shift around 3,000 when normally driving.
In a street race setting I haven't been pushing it overly hard. I usually shift from 3,500 to 5,000RPM...
Any input would be appreciated!
I generally shift around 3,000 when normally driving.
In a street race setting I haven't been pushing it overly hard. I usually shift from 3,500 to 5,000RPM...
Any input would be appreciated!
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Yahh umm...
your not going to win any races if you shift at a max of 5,000 rpms during one. Normally i shift at ~4000 maybe higher but dont do that unless your engine is broken in. if your racing, get it up as high as you can, the higher the revs, the higher the horsepower in this car.
your not going to win any races if you shift at a max of 5,000 rpms during one. Normally i shift at ~4000 maybe higher but dont do that unless your engine is broken in. if your racing, get it up as high as you can, the higher the revs, the higher the horsepower in this car.
Bullshit don't race if your engine isn't broken in - if your engine isn't broken in, you've still got TIME to break it in right! Who's got the article around here that proves that a harder break in results in more power?
Anyway, yeah, when I'm racing, I definitely try to get as close to the rev limiter as I can; usually when I just barely touch it in 2nd then slam into 3rd nothing can keep up, that upshift is ridiculous.
Anyway, yeah, when I'm racing, I definitely try to get as close to the rev limiter as I can; usually when I just barely touch it in 2nd then slam into 3rd nothing can keep up, that upshift is ridiculous.
I've hit the rev limiter so many times I lost count. But when it all comes out good 2 through 5 I will shift right around 6600 or 6700 rpms. That's right your herd it here 6600 or 6700! At that point it becomes a power shift and the momentum just caries you through. It's quiet thrilling and I try to do it at least once a day.
What makes you so special to get that much higher of a redline?SPLREDLINE said:I've hit the rev limiter so many times I lost count. But when it all comes out good 2 through 5 I will shift right around 6600 or 6700 rpms. That's right your herd it here 6600 or 6700! At that point it becomes a power shift and the momentum just caries you through. It's quiet thrilling and I try to do it at least once a day.
The best way to find your shift points is to look at a dyno graph and your gear ratios...
When (Current Gear Ratio * Torque at Current RPM) < (Next Gear Ratio * Torque at RPM You'll be at in the next gear), you shift.
Generally the optimum shift point will be different for each gear.
When (Current Gear Ratio * Torque at Current RPM) < (Next Gear Ratio * Torque at RPM You'll be at in the next gear), you shift.
Generally the optimum shift point will be different for each gear.
i agree with splredline... when i race i shift at round 6500 every gear, yes i have hit the rev limiter but, i mean if ur guna race u mine as well use all the power your car was designed to give out
Does the redline actually keep power above 6 K? Any links to dyno charts?05BlueRedline said:i agree with splredline... when i race i shift at round 6500 every gear, yes i have hit the rev limiter but, i mean if ur guna race u mine as well use all the power your car was designed to give out
The redline actually builds power right up to the redline...
The shifting is actually the same for every gear, since the ratios are the same...
The shifting is actually the same for every gear, since the ratios are the same...
i shift just before the redline when racing..i have a shiftlight go off at 6200 so its good for first gear...i just wait longer when shifting into higher gears...normal driving i shift around 2500 or less...
What are the ratio's?Sp00ner said:The redline actually builds power right up to the redline...
The shifting is actually the same for every gear, since the ratios are the same...
I don't know off hand, gearing is not my thing.... it's about every 30mph.
33 - 1st
65 - 2nd
97 -3rd
Final is 4.05? maybe 4.10, pretty sure it's 4.05...
The ratios are posted around here somewhere
33 - 1st
65 - 2nd
97 -3rd
Final is 4.05? maybe 4.10, pretty sure it's 4.05...
The ratios are posted around here somewhere
I'll do a search for it..Sp00ner said:I don't know off hand, gearing is not my thing.... it's about every 30mph.
33 - 1st
65 - 2nd
97 -3rd
Final is 4.05? maybe 4.10, pretty sure it's 4.05...
The ratios are posted around here somewhere
1 3.380:1
2 1.760:1
3 1.180:1
4 0.890:1
5 0.700:1
Final drive: 4.050:1
From that I disagree on the ratio's being the same when shifting...
Here's what I get when you shift at 6500 RPM's the RPM you'll be at in the next gear:
shifting into 2nd @ 6500 RPM: 3384 RPM's
shifting into 3rd @ 6500 RPM: 4391 RPM's
shifting into 4th @ 6500 RPM: 4902 RPM's
Without a dyno chart I can't say for sure, but I'd shift into 2nd at a higher RPM than when I shift into 3rd or 4th.
2 1.760:1
3 1.180:1
4 0.890:1
5 0.700:1
Final drive: 4.050:1
From that I disagree on the ratio's being the same when shifting...
Here's what I get when you shift at 6500 RPM's the RPM you'll be at in the next gear:
shifting into 2nd @ 6500 RPM: 3384 RPM's
shifting into 3rd @ 6500 RPM: 4391 RPM's
shifting into 4th @ 6500 RPM: 4902 RPM's
Without a dyno chart I can't say for sure, but I'd shift into 2nd at a higher RPM than when I shift into 3rd or 4th.
Yah
Yah the dynos just keep going up and up thats why i think psi-fi should raise the rev limiter on their ECU. In most cars the horsepower falls just before the limiter. I think we should be able to bump up the rev limiter to 7000 rpms safelySp00ner said:The redline actually builds power right up to the redline...
While HP is important... how does the torque curve look at high RPM's? Does anyone have a link to a dyno chart?Redline686 said:Yah the dynos just keep going up and up thats why i think psi-fi should raise the rev limiter on their ECU. In most cars the horsepower falls just before the limiter. I think we should be able to bump up the rev limiter to 7000 rpms safely
psi-fi is using their own piggyback ecu. It can not raise the rev limiter.Redline686 said:Yah the dynos just keep going up and up thats why i think psi-fi should raise the rev limiter on their ECU. In most cars the horsepower falls just before the limiter. I think we should be able to bump up the rev limiter to 7000 rpms safely
That is the most solid torque curve I have EVER seen.Sp00ner said:
Yeah, I can see redline being the optimum shift point. That justifies the car's name, I'd say. Those aren't the best gear ratio's for that torque curve... 1st and 2nd are WAAAAY too far apart.
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