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I saw some at the Napa Auto parts store the other day and remembered a few of you guys said you use it.

I read the bottle and it claims better lubrication, increased HP blah blah blah.

I also noticed it was like $5.85 a quart. :eek:

I would definitely buy it instead of Mobile 1 if you guys feel it's worth it though.
 

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i will always use manufacture spec oils. I may add power better gas octane boosters and bolt ons but I will never ever go against what a company reccomends for oil. But from what I hear Royal is a great oil for race engines. I ran it in my 76 monte. 502 s/c bolted to a turbo 400 tranny. That thing made 700hp at low boost 9psi and over 1000 at high 14 psi. And then you add the Nitrous whew what a ride. But that was a bought and built motor.
 

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I run Royal Purple i think it was worth it because the OIL is ACTUALLY PURPLE in color!!! Besides that yea i paid $5.75 a quart at Summit Racing. I did it on my first oil change I really doubt if there is an improvement or not but they recommed changing the oil every 12k miles. ill go 6k to 8k
 

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I run Royal Purple i think it was worth it because the OIL is ACTUALLY PURPLE in color!!! Besides that yea i paid $5.75 a quart at Summit Racing. I did it on my first oil change I really doubt if there is an improvement or not but they recommed changing the oil every 12k miles. ill go 6k to 8k

LOL!!!

Purple oil? That's it, I'm buying some now. :D
 

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just so you know if you have any internal engine trouble and you are not using mobil 1 saturn probably wont fix it under warranty
 

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Why wouldn't they fix the car just cause it's a different synthetic OIL Mobil 1 is just what they "recommend" not what you have to use. Thats like saying i am going to use a fram Air filter and they try to void the warrenty cause it's not OEM.
 

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The manual has the 'code' that the oil has to meet as a standard for our cars. I looked at the bottle of Pennzoil, and Castrol Syntec that are laying around my house, and there isn't ANY code on either of them. So, I'm just gonna run some sort of name-brand synthetic and they can blow me... I'm sure they aren't gonna test my oil somehow to see if it meets GM standard H11640A or whatever the hell it is. I'll probably use Mobil One, since that's what the cap has printed on it, the synthetics all cost about the same. This way it's one less thing for me to be obsessive over if something dosen't sound exactly right under the hood.... I had an '81 Camaro that ran to over 250,000 miles with whatever oil I could scrape together the change for. So I dunno, not sure that Royal Purple is any better than Mobil One, you can find support for either depending on where you look. Lotsa racers seem to go with the purple, so do alot of these Honda kids I know, but most supercars will come standard with Mobil One. Hell, either Lambo or Ferrari has their own private blend of the stuff, costs like $50 a quart...



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You should be fine, but Saturn is kinda cracking down on RL's. They wont replace a clutch under warrenty, even if it only had 500 miles.
 

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You should be fine, but Saturn is kinda cracking down on RL's. They wont replace a clutch under warrenty, even if it only had 500 miles.

I bet my dealer might there really friendly and cool espcially since i bought 2 cars from then in 1 year and a few months
 

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You should be fine, but Saturn is kinda cracking down on RL's. They wont replace a clutch under warrenty, even if it only had 500 miles.
this seems odd to me.. i believe the only way they can deny a repair under warranty is if it is caused by abuse, misuse, or modified. or wrecked lol
 

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Why wouldn't they fix the car just cause it's a different synthetic OIL Mobil 1 is just what they "recommend" not what you have to use. Thats like saying i am going to use a fram Air filter and they try to void the warrenty cause it's not OEM.
if the fram air filter comes apart gets sucked into the intake and damages something its not a covered repair(caused by a non factory part failure) if the factory filter does the same thing its a covered repair.
 

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I've bought two new cars, both sticks, both Saturns, and both times they specifcally said that the clutch is not covered under warranty. I can understand the clutch, you can burn that thing out in a week if you don't know how to drive a stick. Only manufacturing defects are covered, like it falls apart, or the flywheel is warped maybe. Otherwise people would just be out burning their clutch off right before the warranty expires. They don't cover brake pads either to my knowledge. Now when I brought my first Saturn into the dealer, I had warped the hell outta them in the mountains my first time in a stick and they replaced the rotors and pads under warranty. So I think there is alot in how you handle the people there.



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yes you are mostly correct most wear items are only covered for a short time usually 12 months or 12ooo miles, he battery is 3/36 brakes are sketchy usually rotors are covered 3/36 pads up to 25ooo but again it depends alot on the facility.
 

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I use Royal Purple it does meet the standard the manual says if you substitute. I changed my oil at 500 miles then at 6k then at 12k, then at 19k using Royal Purple each time. I've never had to add any oil between changes, and the oil life monitor has never come on. I will never use anything else. You can find it cheaper online Usually there is a guy on Ebay that has it.
 

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As far as the whole "they can deny your warranty claim if it's modified" comment, this IS true, but there's some federal law that actually states that if the modification didn't cause the problem, then they have to honor the claim.

For example, if you buy a cat-back and then something bizarre happens like your car . . . has the engine sieze or something(?) then they have to honor the warranty, because there's no way they can say "hey your exhaust is different, that must be why your motor destroyed itself". I'm not sure what the law is though, it's in a Road and Track or Car and Driver from the last 6 months, I believe from an article related to Mitsubishi Evo owners finding their warranty claims denied because they raced their cars.
 

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I use royal purple and it has the gm specification that meets the smae specs as the mobile one but it feels alot better! ex. ihave changed my oil twice once with mobile 1 synthetic and the second time with royal purple
 

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It's funny, the Model T was designed specifically to be easy for the owner to repair.

Slowly cars became more complex, but with just a little know-how, you could fix most issues.

Now cars are almost rented commodities. In order for a warranty (which is essentially a good-faith agreement that any defects will be repaired) to hold firm, you need to prove that you have followed a laundry list of requirements to the letter.

God forbid you replace your stock headlamps with Silverstars lest your supercharger dies! You know those silverstars, they're the work of the devil! :)
 

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urbanmonkeygod04 said:
As far as the whole "they can deny your warranty claim if it's modified" comment, this IS true, but there's some federal law that actually states that if the modification didn't cause the problem, then they have to honor the claim.

For example, if you buy a cat-back and then something bizarre happens like your car . . . has the engine sieze or something(?) then they have to honor the warranty, because there's no way they can say "hey your exhaust is different, that must be why your motor destroyed itself". I'm not sure what the law is though, it's in a Road and Track or Car and Driver from the last 6 months, I believe from an article related to Mitsubishi Evo owners finding their warranty claims denied because they raced their cars.
It's called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
 

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if the fram air filter comes apart gets sucked into the intake and damages something its not a covered repair(caused by a non factory part failure) if the factory filter does the same thing its a covered repair.
I don't want to get anyone upset with this comment... so take it for what it's worth. ;)

First a little history... I've been racing for quite some time and I use Royal Purple "racing 21". I buy it by the 5 gallon pail to save money. If you want to save more, they sell it in drums. My '04 Ion Redline is a new car for me and I'm learning much about it here and I like what I'm reading. :D

Ok here goes... Paranoia about what to use for oil or airfilters is just that "PARANOIA". If you don't want to make any changes to increase power on your car... it's odd that you read and comment on the threads in the performance area. :rolleyes: Performance mods are MODIFICATIONS made to a stock platform to increase output from stock. Don't hate... just calling it as I see it.
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Mobil 1 oil is good oil and will allow many drivers to sleep at night knowing they are safe during the warranty period. After that??? Who knows...

Royal Purple is awesome oil and will give you performance gains over Mobil 1 while allowing the engine to run cooler due to less friction. It will show more HP on the dyno just by changing your oil. Even if you currently use Mobil 1.

I will step off my soap box now... :)
 
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