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Sp00ner said:
No, I don't think is. That REALLY expensive for a boost gauge though... a data logging one from Autometer is less than that one.
Then on top of that 200 odd dollar gauge, you also have to buy the sensor module and remote for $190. The Competition Package gauge is an Autometer. I've got a pic of it saved, I'll post it later.
 

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MrCleanY0 said:
what's the ladder tach you're talking about sp00ner?
If you look at the pic of the gauge back there again, on the sides of the gauge are rows of LEDs. The LEDs are like a staging tree, they go from green, to yellow, to red, like a complicated shift light. I could be wrong on any of the specifcs there, but that's the jist of it. Assuming that the LEDs aren't as slow as the standard tach, it's neat, at the very least. The fact that it's high enough, and hopefully bright enough, to see out of the corner/bottom of your eyes, could be pretty useful.
 

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Dr John 10391050 is the old number for the one I posted. I am told it is just a guage, but who knows??
 

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Dr John 10391050 is the old number for the one I posted. I am told it is just a guage, but who knows??


NO THE # YOU POSTED IS JUST FOR THE GAUGE. WHAT I DID IS CALL THE PARTS DEPARTMENT AND ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THE STEERING COLUMN ON A 05 QC AND THE PICTURE OF THE COVER CAME UP AND ASKED FOR A PART # IT IS CALLED A GAUGE ASSEMBLY. THE PART # YOU LISTED IS JUST CALLED A GAUGE. NOT SURE BUT IT IS ON IT'S WAY AND I WILL POST WHEN I GET IT THANKS
 

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Your right Dr. John, another Saturn dealer told me it was just a guage, but it looks like it is a replacement panel, however, the number you gave was superceded with mine. Also 15781191 is for Canadian Redlines, I dunno what the difference would be... Both our numbers are for the same part, mine is just a newer version exact same price.
 

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all4glh said:
Is that yours or did you find the pic somewhere on the WWW??
I'm wondering the same. If they are available now, that's awesome.

Hey a Red Line in Spring Hill, cool. I've yet to see any there.
 

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all4glh said:
Is that yours or did you find the pic somewhere on the WWW??
It's not currently in my possession. My Dad works at the Saturn plant and brought it home to show me. This one is actually a pre-production unit that had a problem with one of the LEDs being brighter than all the others. My Dad is trying to come up with some factory wiring so we can see if I can make it work in my car.

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Anyone have any idea what the 3 dials adjust?
Not sure on that one.
 

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jpapa said:
Anyone have any idea what the 3 dials adjust?
3 lights and 3 adjustment knobs.

I'm guessing that each knob can be adjusted to have each light come on at a certain RPM.
 

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Also, the gauge that Signals posted looks to be sitting lower than the original which will make a nicer look IMHO. Not goofy like the first one.






If that is indeed what the final product will look like (and since his dad works at the Saturn factory, I'm assuming it is) I may have to get one of these. The led ladder tach would be a really nice addition too. You could know when to shift without having to look to the far right at the end of every gear.
 

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ya i tried to stick it on with tape before i screwed it in then i tried to take it off but it was STICKY so i left some of it on there so i could be sure it wouldnt rattle it looks nice and works great and i paid 55 bucks so im happy

btw i have the autometer phantom series boost guage 20 psi

and it matches perfect with our gauges

red needle white backround stock white light

spooner ill show u when we meet i bet ull be like oh dood that shits tight!
 

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Steviepc7 said:
spooner ill show u when we meet i bet ull be like oh dood that shits tight!
I'm not saying it looks bad, but you were talking about 'clean' looks. Neither of them is really a clean look, but the stock one is cleaner. That's all!
 

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GaRsNoW said:
WTF!!!! the comp package cannot be hooked up on 04's???????????
If not, an aftermarket boost gauge is one of the easiest guages to install. I'm sure the quaife LSD will still fit.
 

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Signals said:
My Dad works at the Saturn plant and brought it home to show me.
Signals, is your dad allowed to tell you when they actually start production on the Red Lines again, especially ones with the Comp. Package? And aren't you lucky, he gets to take home 'broken' parts that won't get used so that you can use them. Lucky!
 

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WTF!!!! the comp package cannot be hooked up on 04's???????????

What do you mean? I'm sure the parts will fit. They probably mean you cannot take your '04 in and have the comp package installed on it for the same price as buying brand new.

Like I said, I'm sure all of the parts will fit, but the price is gonna dig deep into the wallet.
 

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What do you mean? I'm sure the parts will fit. They probably mean you cannot take your '04 in and have the comp package installed on it for the same price as buying brand new.

Like I said, I'm sure all of the parts will fit, but the price is gonna dig deep into the wallet.
I've been told several times that the wiring harness is different for the two packages. My guess, is that the wiring harness for the comp package, includes the circuits for the ladder tach, and boost gauge. Is the boost hookup on it electical or mechanical? Same with the wiring harness, it's probably part of the headlight circut in the comp package, that way you can't leave the foglights on it. That's what they told me when I bought mine, about the foglights anyway. They said the regular Ion's have a different wiring harness, and the foglamps need that harness to 'hook right in', they said you could install them, but you would either have to tap into the existing one, or install a seperate circuit and remember to turn off the foglights seperate from the headlights.

It's the same thing as the self-dimming, compass rearview mirror.
 
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