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So has anyone actively looked into a supercharger swap? The 1600 Series Whipple Superchargers exterior wise is close to a M62. The problem comes down to which 1600 to pick.... there are four models and they have different mounting styles. For the most part Whipple has a direct bolt-on replacement for almost all types of eaton superchargers... so there are several different styles of mounts, outlet design... etc etc... so that i one chose to replace their crappy Eaton.. they could just bolt on a Whipple.
On a L67, the direct bolt in replacement for the M90 is a 2300AX. There was some testing done with a 97 GTP that was bone stock except the 2300AX. The outlet discharge temps were 50-80 degrees cooler at the same boost levels of the M90... and overall it added 60hp to the car. This was at stock levels of boost. The L67 is a non-intercooled engine..... it makes me salivate at the thoughts of what kind of gains are possible on the Intercooled 2.0L.
The 1600 series has a .5L addtional displacement over the M62 so that means good things as far as how fast the supercharger has to spin to make stock levels of boost. It wont have to spin as fast.... so that will lessen the amount of parasitic drag, as well as the outlet discharge temps.
The only problems I forsee is a means of boost bypass, and finding the limits of the stock fuel system. How does the Ecotec measure air? Through a MAF, or Speed Density? Hopefully a MAF. I wonder if the stock PCM has the maps to supporting 5 or 6 psi more boost.
I am awaiting a reply from eaton on the exact model of M62 that is on the Ion Redline, so I can ask Whipple which 1600 model to go with... and ask one of their techs if the stock boot bypass system will work with a 1600 series whipple. Maybe they have a means of seperate boost bypass so that when you let off the throttle you dump boost (like in a turbo car).... that way you don't have to worry about your stock PCM taking boost away when you dont want it to.
The other problem is..... I'm still searching for an Ion Redline to purchase so I can try this out, I am pretty close, I found an 04 for around 17k after rebates.
Im pretty familiar with GM supercharged engines, as my previous car was a GTP. My current car is an SRT-4
What a pair that would be.... an SRT-4 and a RedLine. I have to make sure that the Redline is never faster than my SRT-4 of course...so a EVO III 16g Turbo swap is being peiced together for it first!
On a L67, the direct bolt in replacement for the M90 is a 2300AX. There was some testing done with a 97 GTP that was bone stock except the 2300AX. The outlet discharge temps were 50-80 degrees cooler at the same boost levels of the M90... and overall it added 60hp to the car. This was at stock levels of boost. The L67 is a non-intercooled engine..... it makes me salivate at the thoughts of what kind of gains are possible on the Intercooled 2.0L.
The 1600 series has a .5L addtional displacement over the M62 so that means good things as far as how fast the supercharger has to spin to make stock levels of boost. It wont have to spin as fast.... so that will lessen the amount of parasitic drag, as well as the outlet discharge temps.
The only problems I forsee is a means of boost bypass, and finding the limits of the stock fuel system. How does the Ecotec measure air? Through a MAF, or Speed Density? Hopefully a MAF. I wonder if the stock PCM has the maps to supporting 5 or 6 psi more boost.
I am awaiting a reply from eaton on the exact model of M62 that is on the Ion Redline, so I can ask Whipple which 1600 model to go with... and ask one of their techs if the stock boot bypass system will work with a 1600 series whipple. Maybe they have a means of seperate boost bypass so that when you let off the throttle you dump boost (like in a turbo car).... that way you don't have to worry about your stock PCM taking boost away when you dont want it to.
The other problem is..... I'm still searching for an Ion Redline to purchase so I can try this out, I am pretty close, I found an 04 for around 17k after rebates.
Im pretty familiar with GM supercharged engines, as my previous car was a GTP. My current car is an SRT-4