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after seven trips to the dealership for the same problem(posted many threads about it) a wise tech at my beloved home town Saturn stated "it might be an injector leaking" which would cause the black smoke and bogging out and with that woola my car has no more problems. He replaced all four injectors. Saturn corporate then called me and asked "for my troubles" could they make a car payment or extend my warrany to 4 yr or 50k miles for free. Now that is customer service!!!!! In the long run the extended warranty is my best bet so I will probably run with that or hell ask for both.
 

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Koodos to you dude. Congradualtions. You stuck to your guns and raised hell. Don't back down now. You have done us all a service.
 

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Now I hope if I have problems, that it takes multiple trips to the dealership to try and fix in hope that I can get the same offer, because that sure seems worth it after all of that, even if it was a pain.
 

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Now that sounds like the Saturn I know and love. :D I was wondering where they've been hiding out lately.

Glad it all worked out for you in the end.
 

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nbuddle1974 said:
after seven trips to the dealership for the same problem(posted many threads about it) a wise tech at my beloved home town Saturn stated "it might be an injector leaking" which would cause the black smoke and bogging out and with that woola my car has no more problems. He replaced all four injectors. Saturn corporate then called me and asked "for my troubles" could they make a car payment or extend my warrany to 4 yr or 50k miles for free. Now that is customer service!!!!! In the long run the extended warranty is my best bet so I will probably run with that or hell ask for both.
I wonder how long that same tech has been telling people that's what the problem was. People were probably blowing him off for a month! So it was a leaky injector huh? What was leaking? Around the injector? Or was it leaking fuel into the cyl?
 

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Well I've got your gremlins.
What symptoms were you having (other than black smoke)? Did you always have the problems or was it infrequent?
 
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