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Is anyone really sure what motor is going to go into this thing? I've heard lots of rumors about a 2.0 supercharged Ecotec, but has anything really been confirmed yet?
 

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SATURN ION | Specifications
Overview
Models: Saturn ION sedan, quad coupe and Red Line
Body style / driveline: sedan: 5-passenger, front-engine, front-wheel-drive sedanquad coupe and Red Line: 4-passenger, front-engine, front-wheel-drive coupes with dual rear-access doors
Construction: steel spaceframe with full-length frame rails and steel safety cage; galvanized steel hood, roof and deck lid; polymer door, fender, quarter panels and fascias
EPA vehicle class:
compact car
Manufacturing location: Spring Hill, Tennessee
Key competitors: sedan: Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda Protegé, Nissan Sentra
quad coupe: Honda Civic coupe, Ford Focus 3-door, Volkswagen Golf
Red Line: Honda Civic Si, Ford Focus SVT, Nissan Sentra SE-R, Dodge Neon SRT-4

Engines Ecotec 2.2L L4 (L61) Ecotec 2.0L SC (LSJ)
Type: 2.2L inline 4-cylinder 2.0L supercharged/intercooled inline 4-cylinder
Application: sedan and quad coupe Red Line
Displacement (cu in / cc): 134 / 2189 122 / 1998
Bore & stroke (in / mm): 3.39 x 3.72 / 86 x 94.6 3.39 x 3.39 / 86 x 86
Block material: cast aluminum with cast iron cylinder liners cast aluminum with cast iron cylinder liners
Cylinder head material: cast aluminum cast aluminum
Valvetrain: chain-driven dual overhead camshafts with roller followers, 4 valves per cylinder, dual rotating balance shafts chain-driven dual overhead camshafts with roller followers, 4 valves per cylinder, dual rotating balance shafts
Ignition system: coil-on-plug coil-on-plug
Fuel delivery: sequential fuel injection sequential fuel injection
Compression ratio: 10.0:1 9.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm): 140 / 104 @ 5800 205 / 153
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm): 145 / 197 @ 4400 200 / 271 @ 4400
Recommended fuel: 87 octane unleaded 91 octane unleaded
Maximum engine speed (rpm): 6450 fuel cutoff 6450 fuel cutoff
Emissions controls: 3-way catalyst (Tier 2 LEV 2 Bin 8) 3-way catalyst (Tier 2 LEV 2 Bin 8)
Estimated fuel economy
(mpg city / hwy / combined): sedan: 26 / 33 / 29 (manual);
24 / 32 / 28 (5-spd auto)
quad coupe: TBD TBD

Transmissions
M86 GETRAG F23 VTi M75 M43 AISIN AF23 F25
Type: 5-spd man transaxle VTi auto variable transaxle 5-spd auto transaxle 5-spd man transaxle
Application: std on sedan, quad coupe opt on quad coupe opt on sedan std on Red Line
Gear ratios :)1)
Range: --- 0.47 - 2.61 --- ---

First:

3.58 --- 4.69 3.38

Second:

2.02 --- 2.94 1.76

Third:

1.35 --- 1.92 1.18

Fourth:

0.98 --- 1.30 0.89

Fifth:

0.69 --- 1.00 0.70

Reverse:

3.31 2.15 3.18 3.17
Final drive ratio: 3.84:1 4.36:1 2.60:1 4.05:1

Chassis/Suspension Sedan & Quad Coupe Red Line
Front: strut-type independent with stabilizer bar strut-type independent with stabilizer bar, performance-tuned
Rear: semi-independent torsion beam with stabilizer bar semi-independent torsion beam with stabilizer bar, performance-tuned
Traction control: electronic engine torque management controlled by engine control module using wheel-speed information communicated from the ABS system not available
Steering type: electric power-assisted rack-and-pinion electric power-assisted rack-and-pinion, performance-tuned
Steering ratio: 16.6:1 16.6:1
Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock: 3.5
2.88
Turning circle,
curb-to-curb (ft / m): 35.4 / 10.8 > 35.4 (actual TBD)

Brakes Sedan & Quad Coupe Red Line
Type: power-assisted front vented disc / rear drum; opt Bosch 8.0 4-channel ABS with Dynamic Rear Proportioning power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes w/ std Bosch 8.0 4-channel Bosch ABS
Rotor diameter (in / mm): front disc: 10.1 / 256
rear drum: 9.1 / 230 front: 11.6 / 295
rear: 10.6 / 270

Wheels/Tires Sedan Quad Coupe Red Line
Wheel size and type:

14-inch steel (std on base)
15-inch steel (std on midlevel)
15-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel)
16-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel)
Ultra-Bright machined
16-inch alloy (std on Black Tie Edition)
15-inch steel (std on midlevel)
15-inch flangeless alloy
(opt on midlevel)

16-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel) 17 x 7 inch, 6-spoke flangeless, forged alloy
Tires: Firestone P185/70R14
(std on base)
Firestone P195/60R15
(std on midlevel)
Firestone P205/55R16
(std on uplevel)

Firestone P195/60R15
(std on midlevel)
Firestone P205/55R16
(opt on uplevel)
Continental 215/45R17 W-rated performance

Dimensions
Exterior Sedan Quad Coupe Red Line
Wheelbase (in / mm): 103.2 / 2621 103.2 / 2621 103.5 / 2629
Overall length (in / mm): 184.5 / 4686 185 / 4699 185 / 4699
Overall width (in / mm): 67.2 / 1707 67.9 / 1725 67.9 / 1725
Overall height (in / mm): 57.4 /1458 56 / 1422 55.8 / 1418
Track (in / mm): front: 58.8 / 1494 front: 58.8 / 1494 front: 58.8 / 1494
rear: 58.4 / 1483 rear: 58.4 / 1483 rear: 58.4 / 1483
Curb weight (lb / kg): manual: 2692 / 1221 manual: 2751 / 1248 2590 / 1338 (EPA est.)
5-spd auto: 2766 / 1255 VTi: 2769 / 1256

Interior Sedan Quad Coupe / Red Line
Seating capacity (front / rear): 2 / 3 2 / 2
Head room (in / mm):

Front:

40 / 1016 38.9 / 988

Rear:

37 / 940 36.5 / 927
Leg room (in / mm):

Front:

42.2 / 1072 42.2 / 1072

Rear:

33.3 / 846 32.7 / 831
Shoulder room (in / mm):

Front:

53.7 / 1364 54 / 1372

Rear:

52.8 / 1341 51 / 1295
Hip room (in / mm):

Front:

49.5 / 1257 49.4 / 1255

Rear:

49.6 / 1260 48.3 / 1227

Capacities Sedan Quad Coupe / Red Line
EPA passenger volume
(cu ft / L): 93 / 2633 87.3 / 2472
Cargo volume (cu ft / L): 14.7 / 416 14.2 / 402
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg): 1000 / 454 1000 / 454
Maximum tongue weight (lb / kg): 120 / 54.5 120 / 54.5
Fuel tank (gal / L): 13.2 / 50 13.2 / 50
Engine oil (qt / L): 5 / 4.7 6.5 / 6.2
Cooling system (qt / L): 6.9 / 6.5 quad coupe: 6.9 / 6.5
Red Line: 11.1 / 10.5
(includes aftercooler circuit)
 

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SATURN ION | Specifications
Overview
Models: Saturn ION sedan, quad coupe and Red Line
Body style / driveline: sedan: 5-passenger, front-engine, front-wheel-drive sedanquad coupe and Red Line: 4-passenger, front-engine, front-wheel-drive coupes with dual rear-access doors
Construction: steel spaceframe with full-length frame rails and steel safety cage; galvanized steel hood, roof and deck lid; polymer door, fender, quarter panels and fascias
EPA vehicle class:
compact car
Manufacturing location: Spring Hill, Tennessee
Key competitors: sedan: Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda Protegé, Nissan Sentra
quad coupe: Honda Civic coupe, Ford Focus 3-door, Volkswagen Golf
Red Line: Honda Civic Si, Ford Focus SVT, Nissan Sentra SE-R, Dodge Neon SRT-4

Engines Ecotec 2.2L L4 (L61) Ecotec 2.0L SC (LSJ)
Type: 2.2L inline 4-cylinder 2.0L supercharged/intercooled inline 4-cylinder
Application: sedan and quad coupe Red Line
Displacement (cu in / cc): 134 / 2189 122 / 1998
Bore & stroke (in / mm): 3.39 x 3.72 / 86 x 94.6 3.39 x 3.39 / 86 x 86
Block material: cast aluminum with cast iron cylinder liners cast aluminum with cast iron cylinder liners
Cylinder head material: cast aluminum cast aluminum
Valvetrain: chain-driven dual overhead camshafts with roller followers, 4 valves per cylinder, dual rotating balance shafts chain-driven dual overhead camshafts with roller followers, 4 valves per cylinder, dual rotating balance shafts
Ignition system: coil-on-plug coil-on-plug
Fuel delivery: sequential fuel injection sequential fuel injection
Compression ratio: 10.0:1 9.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm): 140 / 104 @ 5800 205 / 153
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm): 145 / 197 @ 4400 200 / 271 @ 4400
Recommended fuel: 87 octane unleaded 91 octane unleaded
Maximum engine speed (rpm): 6450 fuel cutoff 6450 fuel cutoff
Emissions controls: 3-way catalyst (Tier 2 LEV 2 Bin 8) 3-way catalyst (Tier 2 LEV 2 Bin 8)
Estimated fuel economy
(mpg city / hwy / combined): sedan: 26 / 33 / 29 (manual);
24 / 32 / 28 (5-spd auto)
quad coupe: TBD TBD

Transmissions
M86 GETRAG F23 VTi M75 M43 AISIN AF23 F25
Type: 5-spd man transaxle VTi auto variable transaxle 5-spd auto transaxle 5-spd man transaxle
Application: std on sedan, quad coupe opt on quad coupe opt on sedan std on Red Line
Gear ratios :)1)
Range: --- 0.47 - 2.61 --- ---

First:

3.58 --- 4.69 3.38

Second:

2.02 --- 2.94 1.76

Third:

1.35 --- 1.92 1.18

Fourth:

0.98 --- 1.30 0.89

Fifth:

0.69 --- 1.00 0.70

Reverse:

3.31 2.15 3.18 3.17
Final drive ratio: 3.84:1 4.36:1 2.60:1 4.05:1

Chassis/Suspension Sedan & Quad Coupe Red Line
Front: strut-type independent with stabilizer bar strut-type independent with stabilizer bar, performance-tuned
Rear: semi-independent torsion beam with stabilizer bar semi-independent torsion beam with stabilizer bar, performance-tuned
Traction control: electronic engine torque management controlled by engine control module using wheel-speed information communicated from the ABS system not available
Steering type: electric power-assisted rack-and-pinion electric power-assisted rack-and-pinion, performance-tuned
Steering ratio: 16.6:1 16.6:1
Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock: 3.5
2.88
Turning circle,
curb-to-curb (ft / m): 35.4 / 10.8 > 35.4 (actual TBD)

Brakes Sedan & Quad Coupe Red Line
Type: power-assisted front vented disc / rear drum; opt Bosch 8.0 4-channel ABS with Dynamic Rear Proportioning power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes w/ std Bosch 8.0 4-channel Bosch ABS
Rotor diameter (in / mm): front disc: 10.1 / 256
rear drum: 9.1 / 230 front: 11.6 / 295
rear: 10.6 / 270

Wheels/Tires Sedan Quad Coupe Red Line
Wheel size and type:

14-inch steel (std on base)
15-inch steel (std on midlevel)
15-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel)
16-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel)
Ultra-Bright machined
16-inch alloy (std on Black Tie Edition)
15-inch steel (std on midlevel)
15-inch flangeless alloy
(opt on midlevel)

16-inch flangeless alloy
(std on uplevel) 17 x 7 inch, 6-spoke flangeless, forged alloy
Tires: Firestone P185/70R14
(std on base)
Firestone P195/60R15
(std on midlevel)
Firestone P205/55R16
(std on uplevel)

Firestone P195/60R15
(std on midlevel)
Firestone P205/55R16
(opt on uplevel)
Continental 215/45R17 W-rated performance

Dimensions
Exterior Sedan Quad Coupe Red Line
Wheelbase (in / mm): 103.2 / 2621 103.2 / 2621 103.5 / 2629
Overall length (in / mm): 184.5 / 4686 185 / 4699 185 / 4699
Overall width (in / mm): 67.2 / 1707 67.9 / 1725 67.9 / 1725
Overall height (in / mm): 57.4 /1458 56 / 1422 55.8 / 1418
Track (in / mm): front: 58.8 / 1494 front: 58.8 / 1494 front: 58.8 / 1494
rear: 58.4 / 1483 rear: 58.4 / 1483 rear: 58.4 / 1483
Curb weight (lb / kg): manual: 2692 / 1221 manual: 2751 / 1248 2590 / 1338 (EPA est.)
5-spd auto: 2766 / 1255 VTi: 2769 / 1256

Interior Sedan Quad Coupe / Red Line
Seating capacity (front / rear): 2 / 3 2 / 2
Head room (in / mm):

Front:

40 / 1016 38.9 / 988

Rear:

37 / 940 36.5 / 927
Leg room (in / mm):

Front:

42.2 / 1072 42.2 / 1072

Rear:

33.3 / 846 32.7 / 831
Shoulder room (in / mm):

Front:

53.7 / 1364 54 / 1372

Rear:

52.8 / 1341 51 / 1295
Hip room (in / mm):

Front:

49.5 / 1257 49.4 / 1255

Rear:

49.6 / 1260 48.3 / 1227

Capacities Sedan Quad Coupe / Red Line
EPA passenger volume
(cu ft / L): 93 / 2633 87.3 / 2472
Cargo volume (cu ft / L): 14.7 / 416 14.2 / 402
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg): 1000 / 454 1000 / 454
Maximum tongue weight (lb / kg): 120 / 54.5 120 / 54.5
Fuel tank (gal / L): 13.2 / 50 13.2 / 50
Engine oil (qt / L): 5 / 4.7 6.5 / 6.2
Cooling system (qt / L): 6.9 / 6.5 quad coupe: 6.9 / 6.5
Red Line: 11.1 / 10.5
(includes aftercooler circuit)
I see it has traction control how about an lsd?
 

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Is it out yet? Is it out yet? :D

I'm really looking forward to the release of this car. We ran a 97 SC in the 2003 One Lap event and had a lot of opportunity to spend time the previous years with part of the Redline Development team.

I do know that one is already being prepared to do combat with the PVO SRT-4 in the 2004 Onelap event, and I expect it to do pretty well.

With a known powerplant that has made insane amounts of horsepower with bolt-on's, the Redline looks like a great place to start a project.

Dale
 

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LSD...?
Sorry GM doesn't believe in offering drugs with its vehicles...

Yes, I know what it really is.

Torsen would be nice, but Quaife already offers the 6 speed gear kit and LSD for the F series SAAB transaxle... Too bad GM didn't throw it in....

Well there is always the International Auto salon early next year.
 

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that's awesome, last i heard the hp was 200, but on saturnfans.com i read a statement that said it has 205. still a bit less than the srt-4, but i think the car makes up for it with it's looks. hopefully gm will get brilliant and offer a bunch of aftermarket products, ala mopar.
 

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matt said:
Yes it's official, it's going to be a 2.0 S/C Ecotec.
It's official!!!!!

(I can pull up old threads, too. Well, only cause I got nothing better to do....)
 

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Holy shit! Talk about reviving the dead! Now what is next? Oh just a mere 2.0L w/ VVT and a turbo rated at 260/260 identical to the Opel Astra VXR!!!
 

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This thread was posted just before Moses found the burning bush... it was Moses right?
 

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Exactly...I mean wasn't the carburated engine created on the 3rd day?
 

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My neighbor has COLOR TV!!!!!!!!!
 

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WOW! You rent in Pclears box?!?
Damn Straight. It's awefully tight in there with everybody. I was hoping maybe someone bought a new fridge lately and could pass the box down to me.....
 

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My neighbor has COLOR TV!!!!!!!!!
They need a BETA VCR like I have.
 

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lol looks like matt's first post ;).


btw I call BS on the car having a s/c 2.0. that's crazy talk, fuckin ekool spreading LIES ;)
 

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Re: i am rapidly loosing faith in this site, someone please help..

LSD...?
Sorry GM doesn't believe in offering drugs with its vehicles...

Yes, I know what it really is.

Torsen would be nice, but Quaife already offers the 6 speed gear kit and LSD for the F series SAAB transaxle... Too bad GM didn't throw it in....

Well there is always the International Auto salon early next year.
It was you???? I've been trying to figure it out! Haha thanks again man. Let me know if you find anything else I'm still looking for fogs and a wing body part wise... then I'll start the performance mods. Lol
 
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