Awesome!!!!!!!!!

 

you sir...completely and utterly suck!!!! I've been waiting for word on these and here it is.....AWESOME!!!

what type of adjustablity does it offer?

 

This is gonna be a stupid question. but coilovers replace our whole strut and everything? or no?
Any set release date or pricing?

 

^Yes, they're shocks and springs with an adjustable spring perch, so you can set your ride height anywhere you want, and easily change it at any time. Also have the REMOTE adjustable dampening Al spoke of imp:

Al that is awesome news. I'm glad these are working well so far. The dampening is double adjustable correct? That is very cool that they found a solution to having them remotely adjustable.

 

Oh ok. So instead of lets say, buying koni front and rear struts for almost 500 and then 200 for springs on top of that, you can get this direct replacement and not have to worry about stock struts blowing out if you don't use koni's and then have the ease of adjustability? I always wondered why coilovers were so expensive now I see they're really not if the above is the case. Even at a grand which I see most going for, if they last that's well worth it..

 

So where and when can we buy these

 

Yeah, you get the whole ball of wax so to speak. Most of the coilovers out for us and the 'balt are either junk, or not tuned well for the RL. That is why I'm excited about these. The great thing about a good set of coilovers is that they're so versatile. You can adjust the dampening (in and out on a good set), adjust the ride height... and have the feel you desire, from a smooth and comfortable street ride, to stiff responsive track ride, to slammed for show, and everything in between. With just lowering springs, you get what they give and that's it.

 

Coilovers tend to have the longevity of regular shocks/struts or shoter/longer?
May actually have to save up some cash for when these come out.

 

Rebound and Damping are together and has 30 levels of adjustment. I am running 24 front and 18 rear on the street at the moment. I tried full high front and 15 rear at the auto-x, but am still not sure on those settings yet.

The shock bodies are threaded and height is adjusted by turning the shock down into the clasp (the part that bolts to the knuckle). That allows you to keep the preload you have on the springs.

We will be putting these on a shock dyno this Sunday and I should have some numbers to post.

They should be available in about 2 months and the target price is around $1200. Check out the Pedders website. Is is the same kit as the Cobalt's and HHR's. Just a modified strut mount for the Ion.

Give me a few minutes and I will get some pictures of where the damper adjustment is.

 

Front adjustment is through the strut mount bolt using a 3mm allen head. The whole is made using a wire EDM.

Rear adjustment is done through a cable that runs from the damper inside the engine bay. I welded a plate over the holes we drilled to get the proper alignment between the cable and damper. We had to do same exploratory surgery so to speak. Thats where the word prototype comes into play. This will be worked out before release.

 

interesting

 

I want these so bad!!!! any one need a kidney????

 

Lol I will buy both of your kidneys for 1200 or your liver for 1500 i

 

Liver is like new, very well taken care of, never drank!!!

 

I'll ask about the organs for suspensions program lol

 

Any camber adjustment?

 

The upper clasp hole is slotted. I found that it is good for about -1.75 degrees of camber. I was a little bummed out about that because it meant I had to use a camber bolt on the bottom hole to get my desired setting of -2.5.

 

I was hopping we would get these for the RL! I know what I'm getting now!!!

 

I have to vouch for the Pedders Xa Coilovers as well. I was able to drive alredline04's car when he first had them installed and I am quite surprised how well the car rode over harsh bumps. Over somewhat smooth concrete (with expansion joints or small swells), I did notice a little bounce, but we did not really play with the damping that day. I know Al has been playing with the settings to get an optimal daily driver set-up.

 

Can't wait to see what the production models will look like, hoping pricing will be more competitive.

 

Just now leaving to go tear the car up at Waterford Hills raceway. I added some toe out last night and it feels like its going to be real nice.

 

Just to let you know the suspension held up great going through gravel at about 70mph and hitting a steep hill at about 40ish. The fascia and radiator was not built as strong though:rofl:

The wheels have been gravel blasted lol

Yay for having spare parts!!

 

Ouch!!! :shock:

 

thats racing eh!? this thread has be all excited..

 

Where's this pedders website link? I can't find them.

What are the sprping rates?

You have the rears at 18 on the treet and 15 at auto-x? And had LESS understeer? :wtf:

 

Came up in Google first

Pedders Suspension - More than just great products... No Bull

spring rates are 6kg per NM

That was my initial impression, yes. Much experimenting is needed.

 

Hmm. I like what I see, but I don't see much. I hope they offer a choice in spring rates; is that 6k rate front and rear?

 

yes. I need to ask if different spring rates will be available. It is something I have thought about also.

 

Sorry about your off.....you did say you were going to tear up Waterford Hills dont think you meant doing it like you said it, and glad you got spare parts....6 kg / mm = millimeter or 335 lbs. kg / nm = kilograms /newton meter does not compute.BTW GM calculate spring rates in newton meters or newton mllimeters...so a spring rate might be say a 65 n/mm rate...if the pedders coil overs use a standard coil over spring all you need is the i.d and the overall length and you can buy them from Hypercoil made in the USA all day long for 75 bucks or so depending on spring rate. The Pedders coil over springs are linear in rate

The Pedders non coil over replacement springs for the stock struts are not linear they are rising rate a different curve than the OEM Cobalt spring, and much different to Eibachs....Eibachs coil bind 4 coils at the rear and two coils at the front, so the rate rises sharply at higher cornering loads...but the standard trim height spring rates for Eibach are soft compared to oem

If you deal with Josh or Sean they will be able to give you spring rates for the non coil over Pedders springs. Pedders say the spring rate of these replacement coils is "proprietary" so Josh and Sean had to get it calculated for them independently. The Pedders replacement coils give a 1 inch rake front to rear, and drop the Cobalt about half an inch, a Redline more than that as the stock RL is much higher.

The ride and handling of these pedders replacement springs is excellent when combined with TC struts.